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   RE: [xml-dev] W3C Schema: Resistance is Futile, says Don Box

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I assume you are no longer talking about Don Box's comments since he referenced XML Schema w.r.t SOAP and Web Services and not all applications of XML? Here we are in plain agreement. To avoid rehashing last months discussions I shall leave my comments at that. 

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Bullard, Claude L (Len) [mailto:clbullar@ingr.com] 
	Sent: Fri 6/7/2002 7:31 AM 
	To: 'ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk'; Simon St.Laurent 
	Cc: xml-dev@lists.xml.org 
	Subject: RE: [xml-dev] W3C Schema: Resistance is Futile, says Don Box

	Sure, Henry, but that is what SOAP needs.  It doesn't
	mean that is what all applications of XML need.  How
	about well-considered alternatives for applications
	that don't need reliable type assertions? I like XML Schema for
	some kinds of work and given the size of the disks
	I can get these days, my toolbox isn't THAT full.
	From: ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk [mailto:ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk]
	"Simon St.Laurent" <simonstl@simonstl.com> writes:
	> I wonder if Don's actually tried RELAX NG.  I'd be curious if "one hit
	> and you're hooked" would get him too.  (That mantra speaks to the
	> quality of the product much better than "everybody's doing it", which
	> is what I tend to hear from W3C XML Schema supporters.)
	I doubt it -- the reason for SOAP's dependence on XML Schema is that
	XML Schema provides type assertions for all constituents of the
	message payload, and SOAP marshalling and unmarshalling depend (sensibly)
	on this.  RELAX NG is constitutionally incapable of providing reliable
	type assertions.
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