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   Re: [xml-dev] W3C Schema: Resistance is Futile, says Don Box

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[Mark Seaborne]

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas B. Passin [mailto:tpassin@comcast.net]

>So  you can see that .NET provides roundtripping translation of normal
>programming data types, and uses schemas, while the user does not see or
>touch schemas, wsdl, or even xml.

>If you do want to do part of this by hand, for example to connect to a
>service that was not created  by .NET, it may work but if it doesn't fit
>scenarios that MS has provided for, it may not.


Blimey! So the average .Net user has no direct control over (or
understanding of?) any of the immensely, and overly complex stuff going on
under the surface. How reassuring.

[Tom P]
Yes, exactly.  Worse, if you want to intercept the machinery and do
something a little different with it, it's either very hard or impossible.

[Mark S]
XML is just the reverse; you get fooled into thinking, just nested angle
brackets, how elegant, how simple; and then whoomph! some rascally person
drops several tons of horrible complexity on your desk. Just so they can
force you to buy expensive development tools, and a whole lot of other
paraphernalia you never knew you needed, all to make it seem simple again.

[Tom P]
I don't say that this is the intent, but MS seems to have found a great way
to get defacto vendor lockin while being able to say that they fully endorse
open standards.   I don't know about the other major Web Services toolkits
(no experience with them).


Tom P


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