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"Simon St.Laurent" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
| Arjun Ray writes:
|> More Tag Soup. They want to command the client: Do This And Then
|> Do That.
| Even for me, that's far too bleak. The developers I've found who've
| hit HTML's limitations have generally found themselves forced to code
| more elegantly, not simply pile on features.
Glad to hear it, but I see no evidence of this.
| [...] I find a lot of developers would prefer to clean up their HTML
| in order to apply various tools to it (like CSS and scripting)
IOW, in order to command Do This And Then Do That, more um effectively.
| than shift completely away from the document-based approach.
IMHO, the developers who think in terms of documents are a vanishingly
small minority. For most of them, the word 'document' figures in their
working lexicon only as the prefix on '.write()'.
| You may not be fond of CSS and scripting, but the process does force
| Web developers to think about what they're doing and why.
| There is a chance for developers to move from Tag Soup to [a] more
| systematic approach, but it does help to provide them with reasons
| and accessible toolkits.
When the end result is something for a Tag Soup processor? Virtue may be
its own reward, but that isn't the apppropriate banality. More like: no
silk purses from sows' ears.