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   Re: [xml-dev] RE: SGML On The Web

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"Simon St.Laurent" <simonstl@simonstl.com> wrote:
| Arjun Ray writes: (with [] off-list correction)

|> the idea [that] SGML/XML can coexist on the same web [with Tag Soup] is
|> a geeky delusion.
|> The social phenomenon being ignored is Gresham's Law ("cheap currency
|> drives out the dear".)
| I don't think Gresham's Law applies very well here.  

We obviously disagree.:-)

| Gresham's Law only works when you can buy the same things with the debased 
| coinage as you can buy with the good (typically gold) stuff.

The things being bought are prop^H^H^H^Hadvo^H^H^H^Hpresentations in a
wowser.  Why Tag Soup plays in Peoria is no mystery.  Just ask the kids
who take time away from their term papers to muddlefutz their way to a
"kinda sorta" understanding of their wosers du jour; flunking out of
school is no tragedy if they can hnag shingles as perfeshnals, banging out
the fruits of their valuable experience.  After all, the folks in Peoria
are willing to pay... 

[Historical note: *gold* was the debasing coinage!  The victim was silver,
and the proximate cause was the influx of gold from the Americas, courtesy
the Spanish Main.]

| I think the problem for XML has been convincing anyone that they actually 
| need those additional things, 

Only if they want to build information systems, which however they don't.

| and Tag Soup continues to dominate in the absence of any convincing need 
| for serious change.

"The" web is about vanity and brochureware.  Why should that change?

| XML's offerings for the Web come with a big learning curve and the
| benefits are still mostly trapped on the server.  Tag Soup started with
| a smaller set of ambitions and a more complete toolkit.  

Complete in the sense of no toolkit needed, yes.  Just "validate" in yer

| Perhaps XML would be wise to take a similar approach; 

XML has been trying, and failing.


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