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   Re: [xml-dev] Redefining the meaning of common nouns

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Rick Jelliffe wrote:

> The point about web services is that they provide some metadata that 
> allows you to find or use them: for example, that they may advertise 
> or have schemas. 

I thought that the point about Web Services(TM) was that they were 
interfaces to services intended to be processed by machines rather than 
presented to human beings. I would posit that less than 1 in 20 
"self-declared Web Services" uses any formal discovery mechanism and 
less than half have a service discovery.

> So that some software can say "I want to find a certain service" or 
> some other software can also say "tell me what format/schema is being

> used."

I strongly disagree that this is the defining characteristic as the term 
is used even in "the industry". XMethods lists many web services with no 

If I just make a SOAP endpoing with no WSDL, what do I call that if not 
a Web Service or XML Web Service?

  Paul Prescod


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