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   Re: [xml-dev] SML: Second Try

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On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 09:57:26 -0600, Bullard, Claude L (Len) 
<clbullar@ingr.com> wrote:

> SOAP works.  What about XML 1.0 keeps SOAP from working?
> XML binaries are working.  What about XML 1.0 prevents that?

Nothing!  Web services don't need anything different from XML, they just 
took what they needed.  XML binary users don't care that what they're doing 
is anathema to some XML geeks.  IMHO, XML needs to be concerned about these 
things for its own sake, not the sake of diverse communities of users.

The question is whether "XML" will mean anything as a brand/label after 
another 5 years of this success.  It might become about as meaningful as 
"LISP" or "SQL" (without qualifiers) -- a generic term describing a general 
approach, but not anything that interoperates out of the box.  The way 
forward that I suggest is continuous refactoring to keep the Core "core" 
and the de-facto optional parts separated.  I don't want the data-heads to 
drive static typing into the core to the detriment of the docheads, but 
neither do I want the dochead stuff such as entities to be inflicted on the 
data-heads now that the costs are becoming apparent.  The SOAP people 
aren't harmed by simply ignoring DTDs, but XML is harmed if there is no 
formal way to distinguish "XML as practiced by SOAP" from "XML as practiced 
by Docbook".


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