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   RE: [xml-dev] Remembering the original XML vision

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We describe them in Query By Example (QBE) terms. 
They are good for authoring data, but somewhat 
awkward for mining the data.  One can use them 
for data mining, but one has to be very aware of 
the data relationships as expressed in the 
GUI going into the effort.  Forms are structured 
GUIs.  The documents are the reports.

In context of the thread title, even before XML, 
the markup community discussed the potential of 
markup to support data fusion technologies.  This 
is still of great importance to the content owners. 
One off publishing is not where markup excels although 
one should not deprecate it for that task given that 
future importance of information is not always known, 
so it is not a bad idea to ensure it can be reused.

The editing tools should be appropriate to the 
task at hand.  The storage formats and the 
annotation by markup should be future proofed. 
This can conflict with the message/serialization-of-objects 
uses which emphasize size of the message as well 
as consistent interpretation based on observable 
behaviors (ontological commitment).

XML experts must become experts in the trade-offs. 
XML content owners must come to understand these 
as well.  Otherwise, the procurement of the system 
will come up short.


-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Jelliffe [mailto:ricko@allette.com.au]

From: <AndrewWatt2000@aol.com>

> In a message dated 18/02/2003 05:08:26 GMT Standard Time, 
> ricko@allette.com.au writes:
> > I don't believe users are happy.
> > 
> > At least, not the publishing users.  By making it easy for developers, we
> > have a lot of software which is good for data transmission but still very
> > little that is an advance for data capture.  
> Rick,
> Isn't XForms supposed to fulfil at least one aspect of data capture?

Sure, but what kind of forms interfaces does it give us that we didn't have 
before with the non-XML technologies?   And forms interfaces seems
most geared to the interactive and catalog-market niches.


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