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   Re: [xml-dev] FW: Tim Bray "Let's Move XML-DEV"

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Thanks for the offer; we've got a techie looking into the problem now. 
We'll yell for help if we need it.


Mike Fitzgerald wrote:
> Karl,
> Would it be acceptable if a few xml-dev or OASIS people volunteered to help
> resolve some of the technical issues or provide a little help with list
> administration? Frankly, I think it would be a better solution than "wars
> and rumours of wars."
> Mike
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Karl Best [mailto:karl.best@oasis-open.org]
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:52 PM
>>To: Simon St.Laurent
>>Cc: xml-dev@lists.xml.org; tbray@textuality.com
>>Subject: Re: [xml-dev] FW: Tim Bray "Let's Move XML-DEV"
>>Read it charitably or not, but our first reponsibility is to our
>>dues-paying members. OASIS' purpose in life is to develop and promote
>>our standards. We've supported the xml-dev list because we think that
>>it's an important industry resource, but we must necessarily give it
>>less attention and resource than other things that are primary to our
>>mission. If this level of attention and resource isn't sufficient for
>>what all of you are expecting then it may be a good idea for you to see
>>who else may be able to give it high priority. I'm not chasing you away,
>>just letting you know that we can't provide the world for you.
>>Simon St.Laurent wrote:
>>>karl.best@oasis-open.org (Karl Best) writes:
>>>>OASIS has been hosting this list for the past three years as a
>>>>benefit to the industry, but has derived no revenue to compensate for
>>>>the expense of running the list.
>>>>So while we all recognize that the xml-dev list is a valuable industry
>>>>resource I think that you're expecting a bit much when you demand that
>>>>we monitor the list closely (since you won't tell us about problems)
>>>>and drop everything else we're doing to fix things. Yes, xml-dev is a
>>>>low priority for us -- but what else could you reasonably expect?
>>>>...(And please
>>>>note that OASIS is also a business, and we've been sponsoring the list
>>>>for three years without any return. Would any of your companies be
>>>>willing to do this?)
>>>Reading this as charitably as I can muster, it seems that OASIS has no
>>>interest in supporting a key forum for the XML community, despite the
>>>fact that their entire business model is largely built on the work of
>>>that community over time.
>>>Perhaps it is in fact time to find a new home.
>>Karl F. Best
>>Vice President, OASIS
>>office  +1 978.667.5115 x206     mobile +1 978.761.1648
>>karl.best@oasis-open.org      http://www.oasis-open.org
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Karl F. Best
Vice President, OASIS
office  +1 978.667.5115 x206     mobile +1 978.761.1648
karl.best@oasis-open.org      http://www.oasis-open.org


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