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It seems I must have missed the mail where you addressed the specific incident that has your hackles raised and instead have to try and piece together what you are talking about from generalities in your mail. From your inferences it seems you believe the W3C referenced some OASIS draft in a way that violates OASIS's IP. A cursory glance at the XPointer specs doesn't show any reference to an OASIS work in their various bibliographies.
Do you mind specifically pointing out what W3C recommendation or draft you have a problem with?
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From: todd glassey [mailto:todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Wed 3/26/2003 7:30 AM
To: Simon St.Laurent
Cc: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
Subject: Re: [xml-dev] OASIS/W3C (was XPointer REC)
No Simon - I am saying that the integrity of the standards process is
paramount to creating ongoing standards that are accepted - look at many of
the IETF's working groups - they produce draft and rfc after rfc only to
have them go nowhere - and this is a failing of the WG process and the
concept of public vetting.
I personally see OASIS as a potentially huge contributor in the longer run
way beyond what it has done to date and so I was concerned that it as an
organization would allow anyone to refer to things that were in a state of
flux or not publicly published as standards yet.
Its amazing to me how many people have interpreted this as "I have some
hidden agenda". There is no hidden agenda here - just a desire to see a
process wherein the org takes ownership of its IP and protects it while its
in the formative stages. And that is what I feel that this W3C action of
citing an unreleased document is not appropriate.
I also believe that it is a copyright issue as well, but not being a lawyer
I may be wrong there. Although I have spent the last three years in a
lawsuit recovering my personal IP's from some unscrupulous individuals that
licensed them and never paid for them so I am somewhat savvy to these
things.
Todd
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon St.Laurent" <simonstl@simonstl.com>
To: <xml-dev@lists.xml.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:05 AM
Subject: [xml-dev] OASIS/W3C (was XPointer REC)
> todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net (todd glassey) writes:
> >there are a lot of people working on critical things here in OASIS -
>
> I'm trying to sort this out - are you suggesting that xml-dev is a
> hotbed of OASIS activity? It's generally not, though OASIS hosts the
> list.
>
> >no other Standards Org's protocols have dealt with this as the
> >XML ones do to date.
>
> For better or worse, the W3C created the XML specification originally,
> and continues to have a lot of XML activity. See, for example:
>
> http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml
> http://www.w3.org/XML/
>
> I'm just not sure what you're trying to suggest about the relationships
> between OASIS and the W3C. It's been a while since anyone's explained
> them formally, I guess. These might be helpful links.
>
> http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2000/02/xtech/bosak.html
> http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2000/04/10/oasis/index.html
> http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2001/01/17/oasisprocess.html
> http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2000/04/10/standards/w3c/index.html
> http://simonstl.com/articles/civilw3c.htm#outsiderole
>
> --
> Simon St.Laurent
> Ring around the content, a pocket full of brackets
> Errors, errors, all fall down!
> http://simonstl.com -- http://monasticxml.org
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