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   Re: [xml-dev] [permathread:semantics] What Markup Is For

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> At the crucial moment of his argument in a piece called 'On Semantics
> and Markup'
> http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2003/04/09/SemanticMarkup Tim
> Bray strikes a pose of Socratic agnosis with:  "To oversimplify, XML is
> winning and ASN.1 is losing. There are a variety of reasons for this,
> but one of them is that it seems to be more important to know what
> something is called than what data type it is. This result is not
> obvious from first principles, and has to count as something of a
> surprise in the big picture."

This comment also strikes me as odd.  Even to strong typing advocates, I would 
have thought there was no controversy to the idea that names are more 
important than types.

I'm also not sure what first principles could apply here.  The only first 
principles I could gather are pretty much at the level of epistemology, and 
certainly there is nothing that can be axiomatically derived from such an 
intangible basis.

Uche Ogbuji                                    Fourthought, Inc.
http://uche.ogbuji.net    http://4Suite.org    http://fourthought.com
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Use internal references in XML vocabularies - http://www-106.ibm.com/developerw
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