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   RE: [xml-dev] Benchmarking forbidden?

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  • To: "Rick Jelliffe" <ricko@allette.com.au>,"XML Dev" <xml-dev@lists.xml.org>
  • Subject: RE: [xml-dev] Benchmarking forbidden?
  • From: "Derek Denny-Brown" <derekdb@microsoft.com>
  • Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 09:23:15 -0700
  • Thread-index: AcMvY+kXMgy3zyzkRWq24XIRJ63jIgAB1toQ
  • Thread-topic: [xml-dev] Benchmarking forbidden?

Adding no-public-benchmark clauses to the EULA is something largely
beyond the control of the Msxml team.  As to be expected in a large,
conservative company like Microsoft, the default is locked down,
raise-your-hand-to-visit-the-restroom type wording.  Anything else
requires jumps through flaming hoops of legalese.  The clause is there
to avoid the classic problem of people disregarding all published
best-practices, and write a test which shows that the product is X times
slower than some other product, i.e. it helps protect against overly
contrived benchmarks.

I can't think of a case where the Msxml team ever blocked anyone from
reporting benchmark runs, and in fact I know of at least one case where
we corrected the benchmark such that it lowered Msxml's score.

[speaking in no legal capacity for Microsoft]

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Jelliffe [mailto:ricko@allette.com.au] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:26 AM
To: XML Dev
Subject: Re: [xml-dev] Benchmarking forbidden?

There has been a no-public-benchmark clause for MSXML a while. Oracle
It is surprising since they both are pretty good. 

My old "Screamathon Torture Test" results came up against this. 
See http://www.ascc.net/xml/schematron/1.5/conrep.html
and http://www.ascc.net/xml/schematron/1.5/#conform

See also http://www.ascc.net/xml/connect  for a little language for
hiding command-line

Rick Jelliffe

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