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   RE: [xml-dev] Inside Redhell: Microsoft XAML Blogger Round-Up

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Hi Bedros,

I understand your point but we are probably making some false inferences
about the ownership of XAML. If Microsoft do the same thing with XAML than
with C# than say thanks to Microsoft since Sun never did that. Did Microsoft
say that XAML will be a Microsoft property and they will suit anyone
implementing it on another platform? Did they prevent Linux groups to
implement C# or CLR on Linux? No both are ECMA standards. Because of that I
may have a common run-time environment on Linux and Windows. Even more,
create assemblies created with different languages. Is the melting pot the
best solution when applied to computers? It doesn't seem so, a new major
language is brought to the developers at least each 5 years and several less
known each year. What I like about common laws is that you are innocent
until proven guilty. What we are doing is the opposite. Let's first see if
they keep it proprietary.

Now the problem will be: If XAML becomes a "real" standard (not a fake one
like Sun's technologies) does anyone will do an XAML implementation outside
of windows? Read by that: the two other alternatives to windows
a) Linux
b) MacOS.

If XAML becomes an ECMA standard and if the competition does not implement
it, don't blame Microsoft, blame the competition. As customers, we have to
know where the "real" enemies are. I do not mean that MacOS or Linux are the
enemies, simply that groupthink is what led us to the current situation of a
single leading vendor.

Off course if Microsoft do not bring XAML to a standard organization and if
Microsoft suit a brilliant Linux group for implementing an XAML environment,
then I'll be the first to defend the oppressed against the oppressor. Until
then, I won't be part of this lazy thinking that seems to be prevalent every
time Microsoft comes out with something new. Like I said, the sleeping
beauty slept for so long, its time to awake her. And like I said, the
current web applications are lousy, not very usable and do not provide good
user experience. If we do not provide what end users are asking for,
somebody else will. And if this is not what they are asking for, if end
users are happy with the "page" paradigm and if developers are happy with
the "mainframe paradigm" why being afraid of Microsoft? :-) 

Sun has millions, IBM has millions, and Oracle has millions, thousand of
"free beer/coke/pepsi or whatever you're drinking :-) developers have time
to develop things. It's only a question of DOING IT!


Cheers
Didier PH Martin
http://didier-martin.com








 

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