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   Re: [xml-dev] XML Conferences

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Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
> The field has certainly narrowed over the last year. There are only 
> seven shows on the list of which two are more broadly focused software 
> development shows with XML tracks, one is a Web show, and one is on a 
> tangentially related topic.

I remember attending an AxKit BoF at OSCON a few years back at which 
Matt Sergeant said something along the lines of "the XML world will 
become truly interesting when XML itself becomes totally boring". As 
much as I love working on infrastructural XML I believed back then that 
he was right and I believe today that we're fairly close to that point 
where XML in itself is quite boring, and everything of interest is 
happening in the outer layers of the XML onion.

Of course, there still are interesting -- the XML geek in me wants to 
say "fascinating", if with little hope for empathy -- issues such as the 
general ineptitude of XML APIs, subsetting, binarisation, fragmenting, 
packaging, querying (though that's close to having its first steps 
done), better schema languages, much better IDness, etc. (pick the 
subset/superset you care about). But we have to admit that those things 
are of limited interest outside XML geek circles. They all have their 
communities, but while some of those communities may reside in the first 
layer of the onion or may be a chance to increase XML's constituency (to 
other onions if the metaphor held), none of those are core to the 
understanding of what XML is today.

So to bounce off the fact that you've brought to light, I guess the 
question is "how much interest is there today in talking about XML per 
se?" Most of the topics I mention above are in their infancies (wtr 
adoption levels at least) so there may be a second wind for conferences 
centered around XML, but other than that it's just slowly becoming too 
low a layer for people to care. When was the last TCP/IP conference?

Robin Berjon

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