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Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:

> At 12:57 PM -0400 4/11/04, Stephen D. Williams wrote:
>> The improper use of an 'XML' label is a fair concern.  On the other 
>> hand, its use, qualified so as to indicate that it is something 
>> different or additional, is a signal that something is working to 
>> maintain a majority of semantics and idioms of XML.
> Additional, fine. (Think XML Namespaces, XSLT, XML Schema, XML Query 
> Language, xml:id, etc.) none of which in any way alter the basic 
> nature of XML.

 From XML 1.1:
4.3.3 Character Encoding in Entities
Each external parsed entity in an XML document MAY use a different 
encoding for its characters.

The basic nature of XML is a permathread issue that won't reach complete 
What I am proposing is an alternate encoding.  Not just a character 
encoding, but an alternate structural encoding while retaining all XML 
logical structural elements.  Is the fact that the structure is more 
complex, but equivalent to character-based structure important?  IMHO, 
not in most cases.  I understand the difference of opinion.

> Different: not OK. If it's not a text format fully compatible with the 
> XML specification, then it's not XML, and please don't use the word 
> "XML" (or preferably the initial letter X) to describe it. XML is 
> text. XML is syntax. XML is not the infoset. The infoset is derived 
> from XML, not the other way around. SAX and DOM are are APIs for 
> processing XML. XML is not a serialization format for SAX and DOM. 
> Alternate representations of the Infoset are not XML. Alternate 
> formats that expose a SAX or DOM API are not XML.
> Merely maintaining the "semantics and idioms of XML" (not that I think 
> that will actually be done when the rubber hits the road) is 
> insufficient to justify the use of the label XML. As Tim Bray once 
> said, "If you bring an application to market and wave the XML banner, 
> what that means to me is that you're willing to accept input in XML, 
> and you'll give me back information in XML, without stealing any of it."

I absolutely expect every library to accept XML 1.1 and be able to 
output XML 1.1 without "stealing any of it".  Additionally, it should 
support input and output of a more efficient encoding.


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