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Len's here.  Playing to the fourth wall isn't good acting. 

Do we have to wait until we are starving to figure out 
that crop rotation is a good practice, or that low growing 
wheat feeds millions while traditional crops fail?  If 
so, then only the strong survive because they are going 
to be the ones with the keys to the grainary.

Show me your profits.

Let's just get the smart guys together.  Ok. Microsoft.  
They publish schemas for their products. We can cite 
DataDiagramML and leave SVG to suck hind tit.  Very 
smart guys did the Visio work, so why not let IT be 
the standard?  We can use VML for the light work because 
the DLL for that is sitting on more desktops than all 
of the other graphics standards combined regardless of 
what organization created them.

Hey, it's XML and if you are using SVG, just write some XSLT.  
Incompatible object models?  Too bad. We only validate.
It's always easy to shape soft metal; it is hard to make 
it keep that shape under a load.  

Make specifications with gold; make standards with steel.


From: David Megginson [mailto:dmeggin@attglobal.net]

Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:

>>The fact is that ISO never did well with computer technology, either
>>*or* after XML.  
> The fact is that where ISO works with a technical consortium, they do
> well.   They can do better.

I wonder what Len would hold out as ISO's great computer technology 
successes, leaving aside cases where they simply rubber-stamped some 
existing consortium's work (i.e. Unicode and a few others)?

We can always pretend that ISO's Great Unimplemented Standards would have 
worked better than the specs that people actually use, but without real 
field experience, who knows?  Lots of designs look good on paper but fall 
apart in the field.  For example, one ISO Standard that wasn't stillborn, 
SGML, had significant interoperability problems: many of us on this list 
once made money primarily from helping people work around them.

All the best,


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