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i would have thought the views of the consumer were more important in
that the xml document interpretation is (for a human or a machine) the
"useful" bit.
personally i make use of lots of non-infoset stuff when first
constructing an xml document so that i can check it manually; i often
reformat xml documents when trying to understand them (eg when setting
up new trading relationships); etc. in production i usually don't care.
but when something goes wrong i go back to very readable forms to debug
things.
does that help?
rick
Alessandro Triglia wrote:
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Bob Foster [mailto:bob@objfac.com]
>>Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 17:48
>>To: Alessandro Triglia
>>Cc: amyzing@talsever.com; xml-dev@lists.xml.org
>>Subject: Re: [xml-dev] Re: Non-infoset
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>>Alessandro Triglia wrote:
>> > Entities are in the non-infoset. I have asked how many
>>creators of
>>XML documents need them. If they are a good number, then the
>>infoset is
>>important.
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>>And I have answered. Everyone who authors an XML document by
>>hand needs
>>them. Sooner or later one will need to escape one or more of the
>>characters ', ", <, > or &.
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>>What, you want a count of the number of people who authors by
>>hand?
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>Certainly not. I am trying to get a feel of the existing views on how much relevance the non-infoset part of an XML document has for the creator of the document (be it a program or a person).
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>I have often heard the comment that the infoset is not important because nobody uses it except spec writers. I am trying to understand whether "nobody uses it" means "people typically need to express more than the infoset contains" or whether it means "people don't use the word 'infoset'".
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>>You
>>don't think it's a big number? I don't get your point, nor why you
>>started this unnecessary squabble.
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>See above. I know for sure that there are many applications that don't care about defining entities and referencing those defined entities, or that are happy with either attribute delimiter, and so on. I would conclude that those applications would be happy with exchanging infosets instead of XML 1.0 documents. I am trying to determine what is the weight of those applications overall.
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>Alessandro
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>>Bob
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