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Please clarify what you mean by "(XML) Web Services" as opposed to "Web


Joseph Chiusano
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Rudder [mailto:drudder@drugfacts.com] 
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 1:36 PM
> To: 'Bullard, Claude L (Len)'; 'Michael Kay'
> Cc: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
> Subject: RE: [xml-dev] Demand for web services
> Don't forget the statement that launched the thread:
> "One of my assertions was that the growth of (XML) Web 
> services was promoted by the need to separate content from 
> presentation, users required data in a "pure" form which 
> could then be styled as they saw fit and depending on the 
> front end, their device capabilities etc." - Joe
> Doug :-)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bullard, Claude L (Len) [mailto:len.bullard@intergraph.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 12:01 PM
> To: 'Michael Kay'; 'Doug Rudder'
> Cc: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
> Subject: RE: [xml-dev] Demand for web services
> "In my opinion the separation isn't the principle feature 
> neither in XML nor in Web Services." - Xasima
> "I agree.  It is one of the stronger myths about XML, 
> repeated everywhere and seldom examined critically as you are 
> doing." - Len
> "It's not a myth; it's a very useful and important part of 
> XML. But only a part, and not always required, as you noted." - Doug
> It's not a part of XML.  That is the myth.  It is a design principle. 
> That is not a myth.
> The tough part is principles in conflict: such as the 
> Principle of Least Power vs The Principle of Separation of 
> Content and Presentation.  Let the parsing continue.
> len
> From: Michael Kay [mailto:mike@saxonica.com]
> > But XML doesn't care.  You do. 
> This started with a discussion as to why Web Services had 
> been adopted, and strayed into a discussion of why XML had 
> been adopted. You seem to be arguing against a viewpoint that 
> I seem to have missed; I don't recall anyone suggesting that 
> XML had views on anything.
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