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Ken,
thanks for that clarification and for your insight into current usage.
In reading over a variety of articles I did come across a comment (I think
it was from Rick) that ISO ratification does not allow for the creation of a
reference implementation. It wasn't clear whether this meany 'disallow' or
doesn't encourage. Can you clear that up ?
This surprised me somewhat given, in my experience, the ability to put
something tangible on the table that projects can pick up an use is a strong
motivator for encouraging adoption. I realise that it may not necessarily be
within the remit of ISO as to whether specific standards get used or not,
but for those (like yourself) who clearly labour long and hard to push them
over the line, I would assume that this affords some satisfaction.
Within the organisation that I work for, those who work in Enterprise
Architecture are forever pressed by project managers who demand more than
just 'paper theory' (rightly so in my book - software is a practical
profession) and without something 'real' will very often take a path of
least resistance approach to delivery sometimes with the consequence of a
much less optimal design sustainablility (i.e. JFDI, 'quick and dirty', I'm
sure you have your own accronyms).
Fraser.
>From: "G. Ken Holman" <gkholman@CraneSoftwrights.com>
>To: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
>Subject: Re: [xml-dev] ISO schemaTron
>Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 18:16:16 -0500
>
>At 2005-12-03 19:17 +0000, Fraser Goffin wrote:
>>I am slightly concerned about the apparent lack of activity both in terms
>>of the ISO ratification and the various schemaTron sites/newsgroup/etc...
>>but this may just be an uninformed view.
>
>ISO ratification is happening, just with some unavoidable delays of a
>personal nature by some involved. There aren't any questions about the
>technology. Volunteer standards work relies on people and sometimes
>unexpected personal issues just get in the way.
>
>>hopefully there will be some sort of progress in the near term.
>
>The status of the project is (somewhat cryptically) recorded here, though
>the stage dates have not been updated since the summer:
>
> http://www.jtc1sc34.org/document/secretariat_temp.html#is19757-3
>
>You can see it in the status matrix at stage 40.99:
>
> http://www.jtc1sc34.org/document/secretariat_temp.html#matrix
>
>There was a single ballot comment:
>
> http://www.jtc1sc34.org/repository/0700.htm#N0652
>
>of the balloted "Final Committee Draft":
>
> http://www.jtc1sc34.org/repository/0600.htm#N0598
>
>Now it is up to Working Group 1 to establish the new stage dates and
>prepare the "Final Draft International Standard" document for submission to
>the process.
>
>As for reference implementations or sites/newsgroups/etc., that is outside
>of my purview on the standardization side.
>
>I'm successfully using Schematron commercially at customer sites, and as
>part of my volunteer work for UBL (I'm running my modified 1.5 that
>supports attribute contexts). I believe Schematron to be the only
>assertion constraint language there is, and even if there are others, I
>don't believe they have ever gone towards any kind of standardization ... I
>know they haven't through ISO as SC34 would probably be the place for it to
>go.
>
>I, too, am looking forward to seeing everything finalized.
>
>>If you hear anything I would be grateful if you would publish to this
>>list.
>
>I hope this helps.
>
>. . . . . . . Ken
>
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