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   Re: [xml-dev] xml xsl web architecture

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On 2/27/06, Peter Hunsberger <peter.hunsberger@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/27/06, Anthony Ettinger <aettinger@sdsualumni.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > L10N support, large-scale public web sites, accessible on multiple
> > > > platforms.
> > >
> > > Targetting 10,000's or millions of users?  Lots of content (CMS)?
> > > Forms? Ecommerce (back end databases)?  Any target deployment
> > > platforms biases (Windows, Linux)?
> >
> > Lots of content, 1000+ pages, millions of users,
> > linux+apache+php5+mysql/postgresql
> > I don't see how this makes a difference in the xml architecture though
> >
> It may or may not make any difference, it does help me get a feel for
> what types of solutions and architectures you might be comfortable
> with.  Bear with me and I'll digress a bit on how/why...
> <digression>
> A shop such as yours might be a lot more comfortable with a solution
> such as JBoss or Apache or Cocoon than, for example, a pure MS shop.
> If you go with something like Cocoon you have, in turn, the ability to
> easily do SAX pipelines. That then means that you can easily do
> multiple transformations (breaking down the cacheable vs.
> non-cacheable portions of the site as appropriate) which in turn means
> your XML architecture can be more granular and also makes it easier to
> use multiple vocabularies. An example Cocoon site doing lots of
> content through Cocoon is www.vnunet.com which might be somewhat close
> to where you're headed? (Note it's being served out of Italy,
> depending on where you're located you may get a bit of latency...)
> </digression>
> Do you intend to stick with PHP and mySQL/postgress on the back end?
> Do you intend to shred your XML or can it be treated as opaque blobs
> (IE; is it pure content or are you driving other business logic)? From
> what I recall there are a lot of entries in the PHP side for XML
> management.  I take it none of them come with any XML models that you
> feel are appropriate to your needs?  Are there any industry specific
> XML vocabularies that you must (or would like to) support?
> I wonder, it sort of sounds like you are having a go at building your
> own CMS solution.  Which raises the question of whether you've looked
> at any of the pre-packaged solutions (proprietary or Open Source)?
> It's still really hard to tell what your real needs are, a bit more
> explanation of the business side might help...
> --
> Peter Hunsberger

Yes, I am building my own xml framework..I've seen several other CMS
solutions, but most of them I did not like. I want something generic
enough, based on open standards and open source, ie - mysql+php5,
although the xml could be delivered with any technology. Mainly what
I'm trying to nail down is a buildtime vs. runtime application, and
what vocabulary I use. Are there any standard vocabularies out there
for CMS?

Anthony Ettinger
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