RE: [xml-dev] RE: Why is there little usage of XML on the 'visible Web'?

["Nathan Young -X \(natyoung - Artizen at Cisco\)" <natyoung@cisco.com>]

Some of this thread has tried to argue that how well known a piece of
information is either increases or decreases its value.  I'd suggest
that the value is never determined by how well know the information is
in absence of other factors.

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Nathan Young
Cisco.com->Interface Development
A: ncy1717
E: natyoung@cisco.com  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lindsey, Jack [mailto:Jack.Lindsey@cra-arc.gc.ca] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:47 AM
> To: bryan rasmussen; juanrgonzaleza@canonicalscience.com
> Cc: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
> Subject: RE: [xml-dev] RE: Why is there little usage of XML 
> on the 'visible Web'?
> 
> I would not assume that most North American children know 
> that Paris is the capital of France.  I imagine many of them 
> think it is the name of a Hilton hotel in Las Vegas.
> 
> Don't you people have work to do?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 	Jack Lindsey
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bryan rasmussen [mailto:rasmussen.bryan@gmail.com]
> Sent: 19 Jul, 2006 14:38
> To: juanrgonzaleza@canonicalscience.com
> Cc: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
> Subject: Re: [xml-dev] RE: Why is there little usage of XML on the
> 'visible Web'?
> 
> 
> > >
> > > I don't follow your reasoning. What would be the value of 
> doing so?
> >
> > If -in your own words- everyone knows that Paris is the 
> capital of France,
> > then there is not real need for the datum on the Wiki's 
> article and we
> > could save bites whereas improving the enciclopedia (best
> > useful-information noise ratio ;-).
> >
> > > Michael Kay
> > > http://www.saxonica.com/
> > >
> >
> > Maybe the problem was in the starting point, i.e. your 
> statement everyone
> > knows that Paris is the capital of France. The fact no 
> everyone knows is
> > that is doing the Wiki information valuable and therefore 
> -if it was not
> > clear- i wait no editing of the Wiki from your part.
> >
> Not definitely, there are other reasons why an encyclopedia article
> might include information that everyone knows, these are:
> 
> 1. traditional structure of article goes from common 'wide' knowledge
> to uncommon 'narrow' knowledge.
> 
> 2. The presence of knowledge that everyone can verify helps provide
> users with a sense of trust in other information. Much presentation of
> factual information is predicated on creating feeling of trust.  Some
> might argue that this is a bad thing but I think any such argument
> would be based on a foolish feeling that one should never accept
> anything on trust.
> 
> 3. Getting started writing an article, even when one knows a lot about
> the subject, is often difficult. In getting over this difficulty it is
> often easy to focus on something non-arguable. Something is
> non-arguable when it is something everyone knows. This may explain
> number 1.
> 
> Cheers,
> Bryan Rasmussen
> 
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