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Re: [xml-dev] Is "markup" a noun or a verb? Do you "markup data" or "wrap data in tags"?

Tagging just sounds wrong to me. To tag sounds like your a hitting one  
specific point (start tag, end tag, toe tag, tag cloud, tag you are  
it). Wrapping tags sounds a little better. I like marked up the data  
best.

-Rob

On Sep 12, 2008, at 1:27 PM, Jim Melton wrote:

> Maybe I'm showing my age, but I think that "markup" is a noun that  
> specifies additional "stuff" associated with text (or other source  
> material) to indicate how it is to be handled (e.g., formatted,  
> processed, analyzed), while "to mark up" is the verb that identifies  
> the process of adding markup to text (et al).
>
> Using my definitions, Roger's item 1 would be my preferred  
> terminology, while 6 and 7 are distant seconds.  While 2, 4, and  
> maybe even 3 are more or less accurate, they are very specific to  
> this (XML/HTML) specific kind of markup.  And 5 just sounds wrong to  
> my ears, but it's arguably no worse than 2, 3, and 4.
>
> Just one opinion,
>   Jim
>
> At 9/12/2008 11:03 AM, Len Bullard wrote:
>> Originally, I think it was a verb but it predates our digital  
>> technologies.
>> It was the practice of those preparing a manuscript for a  
>> typesetter, AFAIK.
>>
>> Now it is both.
>>
>> len
>>
>>
>> From: Costello, Roger L. [mailto:costello@mitre.org]
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Consider this data:
>>
>>    Nikon D40
>>
>> Here I did "something" to the data:
>>
>>    <camera>Nikon D40</camera>
>>
>>
>> Which is preferred way of expressing what I did to the data:
>>
>> 1. I marked up the data.
>>
>> 2. I wrapped the data in a tag.
>>
>> 3. I wrapped the data in tags.
>>
>> 4. I wrapped the data in a start-tag/end-tag pair.
>>
>> 5. I wrapped the data in markup.
>>
>> 6. I embedded the data in markup.
>>
>> 7. I enclosed the data in markup.
>>
>> Or some other way?
>>
>>
>> I suspect that several of the above expressions are acceptable; which
>> ones?
>>
>> Are some of the above expressions just plain wrong, i.e. incorrect
>> English grammar?
>>
>>
>> /Roger
>>
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