RE: [xml-dev] RE: Just nodes please

["David Lee" <dlee@calldei.com>]

Would this essentialy mean obsoleting real attributes ? 
If  
  <a b="c"/> 
were equivilent at the language level to 
    <a><b>c</b></a>

then there are really no attriubutes, just a shorthand notation that "looks like attributes".

It is an interesting concept ... following it through though I wonder how much could be done without breaking a vast amount of the stack (namespaces, xml:id etc etc).

Or maybe we leave only "xml:" attributes "as attributes" and everything else Is 'equivlent nodes'.

That would really simplify coding ! no more "@" in xpath, no more getChild() vs getAttribute() in API's ... 
simplier mapping to/from JSON.



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David A. Lee
dlee@calldei.com
http://www.xmlsh.org


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Kay [mailto:mike@saxonica.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 11:57 AM
To: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
Subject: Re: [xml-dev] RE: Just nodes please


On 06/12/2010 16:34, David Lee wrote:
> Nothing stopping your application from allowing  that equivalence [between attributes and child elements].

Yes, but it's an interesting idea that the parser should treat them as 
equivalent, simplifying the API and allowing an effortless move from 
attributes to child elements when the data gets more complex. Anything 
we can do to simplify the API (and thus the mapping to data structures 
supported by programming languages) is a move in the right direction.

Michael Kay
Saxonica
>
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> David A. Lee
> dlee@calldei.com
> http://www.xmlsh.org
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Manos Batsis [mailto:manos_lists@geekologue.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 11:44 AM
> To: David Lee; xml-dev@lists.xml.org>>  XML Developers List
> Subject: Just nodes please (was: Re: [xml-dev] XML2.0: Truncated End Tags (Was: Fixing what's broke))
>
>
> On 12/06/2010 06:04 PM, David Lee wrote:
>> If you really value conciseness above all else there is always attributes
> On a sidenote, it would be great if
>
> <node1 node2="node3" />
>
> was equal to
>
> <node1>
>    <node2>node3</node2>
> </node1>
>
> so that APIs could be simplified and schemas could *actually* become
> extensible in practice.
>
> My 0.2 euros.
>
> Manos
>
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