Re: [xml-dev] Graphical DTD/XSD Viewer

[Olivier Rossel <olivier.rossel@gmail.com>]

In my opinion, a browsing experience is better than a static-graphics
experience, when navigating models.
(just my 2 cents).

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Rudder, Doug Jr
<Doug.Rudder@wolterskluwer.com> wrote:
> I agree completely. This is a customer request (one that already has a copy
> of the schema). I've generated a graphical view from Oxygen now that I will
> pass along. My preference is to go directly from the DTD/XSD, especially
> considering the extent of the data model being viewed.
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> We'll see how the graphical view is received.
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> Thanks for the responses.
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> Doug
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> From: David Lee [mailto:dlee@calldei.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:29 AM
> To: 'Michael Kay'; xml-dev@lists.xml.org
> Subject: RE: [xml-dev] Graphical DTD/XSD Viewer
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> I agree with Michael.   Not only are they incomprehensible, but for all but
> the most trivial schemas you simply cannot see enough detail on a single
> page to make sense of it.
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> I find them more useful as an interactive outlining tool to help find places
> in the schema to look.
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> Here’s an example of a *very simple* schema and what the diagram looks like
> (This one is from Stylus Studio).
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> http://xml.calldei.com/JsonXML
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> here
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> http://xml.calldei.com/JsonXML/files.xml?action=download&file=jxml.jpg
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> I included this diagram as an experiment on the web page but honestly
> looking at it I can’t make much sense out of it even though I’ve used the
> tool for years.
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> Anything much more complex than this and even on a huge monitor its only
> slightly useful if you can focus in and drill down on parts, while
> collapsing others,.
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> David A. Lee
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> dlee@calldei.com
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> http://www.xmlsh.org
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> From: Michael Kay [mailto:mike@saxonica.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 10:20 AM
> To: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
> Subject: Re: [xml-dev] Graphical DTD/XSD Viewer
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> On 08/02/2011 14:22, Rudder, Doug Jr wrote:
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> Hi, all -
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> A request just came in from our publishing systems manager asking if there
> is a good tool to represent DTDS or XSDs as a graphical image. One of our
> new associates wants something more understandable than a DTD/XSD (they are
> new to the XML world, but want to leverage our data in their product).
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> I don't currently use such a tool myself, so I thought I'd post the question
> to the list to find out what tools may be available for this purpose.
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> Thanks for your help,
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> Douglas Rudder
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> XML Data Architect
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> Wolters Kluwer Health, Clinical Solutions
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> 77 West Port Plaza, Suite 450
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> St. Louis, MO 63146
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> Phone: 314-216-2227
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> email: Doug.Rudder@wolterskluwer.com
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> All the popular XML IDEs (Altova, Stylus Studio, oXygen) offer graphical
> representations of schemas. Personally, I find them totally incomprehensible
> - I've always hated pictures that need a thousand words to explain them -
> but some people seem to like them.
>
> Michael Kay
> Saxonica