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Re: [xml-dev] Re: [xquery-talk] [xml-dev] Mistakes made in the designof XQuery 3.1

In passing, I would like to observe that the title of the W3C Working Group being discussed is "XML Query Working Group" and the charter of that WG speaks of developing a query language for XML.  In fact, the language developed by the WG is called "XQuery: An XML Query Language".  While the WG, and its participants, understand the importance of JSON and have as a goal integration of support for querying XML data along with JSON data, the name and charter of the WG have not been changed to "JSON Query WG".

JSONiq is a very good technology developed specifically to integrate thorough JSON support alongside the XML Query facilities in XQuery.  However, as Mike Kay has stated several times, the goals of the XML Query WG were not identical to the goals of the group who designed JSONiq. Thus, given the primary focus of the XML Query WG and the goals of its participants, it is not surprising that the results of the WG's work differs from what the JSONiq developers might have hoped.

Hope this helps,
   One of the morons

On 5/13/2015 2:35 AM, Ihe Onwuka wrote:

On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 5:25 PM, daniela florescu <dflorescu@me.com> wrote:
> You can be assured that we had lively debates on this topic,

After “living” in the XQuery W3C working group for 15 years….. I don’t doubt you had. I am just happy I was not there.

But, sorry, W3C took the wrong decision: in one instant with this decision, you lost the JSON community.

Is this not a variant of the Worse is Better argument (or did I not properly understand that essay...... probably).

The issue with many JSON people is that they don't seem to acknowledge the need for interoperability with XML so the utility of a "bilingual language" probably doesn't resonate.

Without wishing to appear informed can I ask a question.

Was the Crockfordesque faction represented in the composition of the WG or was it (of necessity) a bunch of XML people talking about how to support JSON?

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