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I agree with Mike.  Having said that, I believe that UML is more useful for defining the second sort of data model than the first.  In ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32/WG 2 (Metadata), UML is very heavily used to define models of (and metamodels for) metadata.  These models (and metamodels) are the second sort of data model, IMHO.

By contrast, in ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32/WG 3 (Database languages), UML is not used at all.  That's because the SQL data model is quite close to the relational model of data.  From an application point of view (e.g., a manufacturing company), the relational model and/or SQL data model are "metamodels" that provide standardized syntax and data structures that the application uses to define the user's business data model.

Hope this helps,
   Jim


On 2016-09-27 05:41, Michael Kay wrote:

As I look through the XML Schema specification I see no UML diagrams.

 

As I look through the GML specification I see many UML diagrams.

 

Are UML diagrams not relevant/useful for data models in the first sense? Are UML diagrams only relevant/useful for data models in the second sense?

 



I suspect that the kind of people who define models like the XML schema model and the relational model are more comfortable with maths and legalese English than with pictures. So I think it tells you more about the psychology of the individuals concerned than anything else.

Michael Kay
Saxonica

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