Minutes of Lightweight DITA Subcommittee--kickoff meeting 15 Sept 2014

Attached are minutes I recorded of today's meeting. Note the
provided links and the closing suggestions for prep for the next
meeting (in two weeks, same time).

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Don R. Day
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Founding Chair,  OASIS
DITA Technical Committee
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Minutes of Lightweight DITA Subcommittee--kickoff meeting 15 Sept 2014 taken by Don Day  Michael took roll (Don's list: Mark Giffin, Tim Grantham, Stan Doherty, Kris Eberlein, Tom Comerford, Chris Nitchie, Mark Poston, Adran Warman, Michael Priestley, Don Day, Joe Pairman)  Michael started off with a presentation overview of the project's design points. (NOTE: the minutes are not reiterating content that is in the slides; trying to capture his add-on commentary) From a last year's presentation (ended by more recent slides): 	[Was apparently one of these; Michael will be providing links as well.] 	 http://www.slideshare.net/mpriestley/lw-dita20130424  	 http://www.slideshare.net/mpriestley/a-lightweight-dita-update
* Goal to accomodate a common architecture, a lighter weight starting point that can be customized as needed by any community.
[Note from Don: hearing variant terminology that we'll need to define and manage our messages around: "extend" vs "specialize" vs "customize" vs "subset" etc.]  * Reviewed some common scenarios: contribution, collaboration, adoption, etc..  * IBM perspective is to have it as a standard portable format across the enterprise (any source, any channel).  * Reviewed analysis of initial design: indeed a lighter cognitive load for users (Don doubts the architecture is eased much!).  * Note that Information Mapping has never come through on IP contribution, so that is currently out of scope.  * To make the architecture lighter as well, the DTD base is actually a subset (not a constraint using the full current DTDs).  * Deeper dive:
* Michael noted that we are learning more by use about necessary base content (eg, relaxation of prolog constraints).
* Titles in topicrefs are a work in progress--new version needs testing.
* Mentioned increased interest in learning and training types for commonly used content.
* Why lightweight DITA?
* Goal to increase size of DITA ecosystem within a company; benefits everybody (users and vendors).  2nd presentation: Does DITA need XML? ( http://www.slideshare.net/mpriestley/does-dita-need-xml-lightweight-dita-and-html5 )  * Adrian mentioned a markdown trend toward CommonMark that we need to watch.  * Joe Pairman mentioned that the goal is for something more specified than the original daringfireballs site.  * Mark Giffin mentioned Oreilly Atlas (asciidoc), a more booklike approach.  Open for discussion:  * Nitchie: is DITA 1.3 a reasonable target for interchange? Michael suggested some
* Jang: interop between full and lw dita: is it feasible to have non-disruptive mapping from one version to another? (ie, hide markup within the editor)  * Michael viewed that scenario as different from the value proposition in LWD: enabling different tools to be deployed.  * Kris foresees other common tools like Outlook being able to support LWD under the hood.  * Kris noted how googledoc can save as ODF; could it save as LWD someday.  * Don added notion of weight and directness of content as a hindrance.  * Michael added more concerns about roundtripping. Take to list.  Kris suggested looking into future meetings.
* Michael Is biweekly okay? yes. This time? yes, (except for Stan)  * We have a plan. Look at Michael's list of deliverables ( https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita-lightweight-dita/201409/msg00004.html ).  * [Note from Don: OASIS subcommittee expectations:  https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#subcommittees ]  * What is your interest in LWD? Motivating use cases?  * Kris suggest that Michael use email to kick this off.  Related lists for public discussion: dita.xml.org -  http://dita.xml.org/blog/lightweight-dita  LinkedIn -  https://www.linkedin.com/groups/Lightweight-DITA-4943862  Yahoo -  http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/lightweight-DITA  (not working when tested just now)

Adjourned at 12 Eastern.