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RE: [dita-fa-edboard] RE: Categories on DITA XML.org
- From: Bruce Esrig <esrig-ia@esrig.com>
- To: "Carol Geyer" <carol.geyer@oasis-open.org>, "'Su-Laine Yeo'" <su-laine.yeo@justsystems.com>
- Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 05:35:47 -0400
Wow, that maintenance strategy (in Su-Laine's message "Removing the book
hierarchy on DITA Wiki pages") seems promising.
1. Looking at the site, there are a lot of improvements. Kudos for that.
2. How do I tag an iterm? Honestly, I looked for it and couldn't find it.
3. I took a look in the taxonomy manager and I see multiple vocabularies.
In building the tagging vocabulary, would it make sense to echo the other
vocabularies by embedding them and their constituent terms in hierarchical
categories in the tagging vocabulary? (I haven't learned yet how to nest
categories ... ref: http://drupal.org/handbook/modules/taxonomy
.)
Would it be smart to merge the other vocabularies in completely and
eliminate them as separate vocabularies?
4. I tried the usergroups tag, and didn't notice the "Read more" link.
Could we put "More ..." at the end of the article, or make "Read more" more
prominent in some other way? Even changing the text to "More ..." might
help, since that's a common idiom.
5. The top few SEO items ("Cool site stats") suggest good tags: training,
ant, cms, editor, opentoolkit, tutorial, tools, OASIS.
6. Are we going with run-together words? I don't want to alienate people by
getting too didactic, but we could start a lower camelCase spelling
convention if we wanted to.
Bruce
At 03:20 PM 10/24/2007, Carol Geyer wrote:
>Su-Laine,
>Just to be clear, do you want me to change the 'Categories' link in the
>vertical nav to read 'Tags' instead?
>
>I think this makes sense, but I realize Wikipedia uses 'Categories' and
>'Topics', so I want to be sure we're using terms wiki-folk will relate to.
>
>(Our 'Taxonomy Manager' link is only visible to editors, so we don't need to
>worry about that.)
>
>Thanks,
>Carol
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Su-Laine Yeo [mailto:su-laine.yeo@justsystems.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:08 PM
>To: Carol Geyer; DITA Editorial Board
>Subject: RE: [dita-fa-edboard] RE: Categories on DITA XML.org
>
>Are terms like 'tags', 'categories', 'topics' and 'taxonomy'
>interchangeable, or do we want to standardize on one term?
>
> > We should use these terms for different things. For the new "tag"
>feature I think we should always use the term "tag".
>
>Su-Laine
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Carol Geyer [mailto:carol.geyer@oasis-open.org]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 11:32 AM
>To: 'DITA Editorial Board'
>Subject: [dita-fa-edboard] RE: Categories on DITA XML.org
>
>Neil has installed the category module and created a tag for
>'usergroups' to
>get the ball rolling.
>
>Now, when creating a new wiki knowledgebase page
>(http://dita.xml.org/node/add/book), users will be presented with a
>'tag'
>field. The field has an AJAXy effect that autocompletes tags with
>already
>defined ones.
>
>Pages that have been tagged will display the tag in the page footer
>links, e.g.
>http://dita.xml.org/user-groups.
>
>The EdBoard can delete, add, and merge tags by clicking on the 'Taxonomy
>Manager' in the vertical nav. (Non-editors don't see this link.)
>
>Anyone can view the complete list of tags from the 'Categories' link
>(http://dita.xml.org/categories) in the vertical nav. We can make this
>link
>more prominent if we want.
>
>Please take a look, play around, and let me know what you think.
>
>Clueless question: Are terms like 'tags', 'categories', 'topics' and
>'taxonomy'
>interchangeable, or do we want to standardize on one term?
>
>Thanks,
>Carol
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Su-Laine Yeo [mailto:su-laine.yeo@justsystems.com]
>Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 4:55 PM
>To: Carol Geyer; DITA Editorial Board
>Cc: Greg Rundlett; Neil Joseph Schelly
>Subject: RE: [dita-fa-edboard] Categories on DITA XML.org
>
>Thanks Carol.
>
>The requirements you list are good. Another important one is that the
>user can navigate from a topic to a list of topics in the category, and
>then from the list to any other topic in the category. The idea is that
>categories help you find content related to the topic you're currently
>viewing.
>
>For example, if you start here:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clippy
>
>You can click the "Technical communication" link at the bottom to see a
>list of all other technical communication topics. This is how readers
>most often use categories.
>
>For maintenance, the software should also let us merge and rename
>categories.
>
>Cheers,
>Su-Laine
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Carol Geyer [mailto:carol.geyer@oasis-open.org]
>Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 1:27 PM
>To: 'DITA Editorial Board'
>Cc: 'Greg Rundlett'; 'Neil Joseph Schelly'
>Subject: [dita-fa-edboard] Categories on DITA XML.org
>
>As agreed on yesterday's call, I've asked OASIS IT to install a
>categories
>module on DITA XML.org.
>
>Drupal has several different approaches to this, so I want to be sure IT
>is
>aware of all our requirements. Here's what I think we said we want:
>
>-allow authors to tag their pages with one or more pre-defined topic
>categories
>
>-allow authors to create new topic categories freely
>-allow visitors to search for content from a list of topic categories
>
>Are there other requirements we should note, especially with regards to
>how we
>display the categories?
>
>Wikipedia seems to offer an alpha list, and an index
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categorical_index. Other sites,
>e.g.
>http://folktunes.org/tags, offer a tag cloud display (which Drupal
>supports
>http://drupal.org/project/tagadelic).
>
>Thanks,
>Carol
>
>
>_________________________________
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>Director of Communications
>OASIS
>+1.978.667.5115 x209
>
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