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   RE: Irony heaped on irony

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  • From: Andrew Layman <andrewl@microsoft.com>
  • To: "'ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk'" <ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk>, Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com>
  • Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 12:04:12 -0700

You could also declare the attribute value as fixed, that, too, would make
IE5 happy.

(By the way, as mentioned in some earlier threads, the IE5 MSXML
very-conservative interpretation of the namespaces spec, which
interpretation is the cause of this trouble, will be changed in the next rev
of the parser.)

-----Original Message-----
From: ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk [mailto:ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 2:05 AM
To: Tim Bray
Cc: xml-dev@xml.org; connolly@w3.org
Subject: Re: Irony heaped on irony


Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> writes:

> The namespaces rec hardwires the prefix "xml:" to the namespace name
> http://www.w3.org/XML/1998/namespace - until recently, if you dereferenced
> that URL, you got a nice helpful human-readable note saying "this
namespace
> is for XML, go check out http://www.w3.org/XML and <a couple of other
useful
> pointers which I forget>".
> 
> Today, I went and looked at it, and there is now some sort of XML schema 
> fragment there which is unreadable in MSIE5 because of an IE5 bug, and 
> unreadable in the NS6 beta because there's no stylesheet.  Its function 
> seems to be limited to providing declarations for xml:lang and xml:space.
> 
> I'm wondering if this is a step forward. -Tim

This is my 'fault', I guess, although it seems to me it's a problem
with the browsers you mention in the first instance.

I could remove the DOCTYPE statement, that would make IE5 happy.  Is
that a good idea?

I could add a CSS stylesheet (do you seriously mean that NS6 beta
won't display XML _unless_ it has a CSS stylesheet :-(, if you feel
like writing one.

I could move the schema, but that would break lots of _other_
schemas, including the schema for schemas, which depend on it.

Seems to me having something of mime type text/xml at the namespace
URI for XML is not something we should have to apologise for.

ht
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