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- From: "Simon St.Laurent" <simonstl@simonstl.com>
- To: xml-dev@xml.org
- Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:22:57 -0400
At 10:08 AM 10/16/00 -0400, Mick Goulish wrote:
>So, Simon, here's what you can do to influence "standards" formation
>without telling *other* people what they should do.
Ah, but the point is that I (and others) are growing tired of being told
what to do by *other* people inside of organizations issuing specs. The
list of answers you provide doesn't really fix that.
>Another numbered list.
>
>1. Keep putting out your opinions on xml-dev. This is free, anybody
> can do it, and it works. *If* enough other people like your ideas,
> they will get instantiated in "standards".
>
>2. If you really want to be part of the W3C groups, join a company
> that will put you there. For someone with your experience and
> standing in the XML community, this would be easy. And if you
> didn't have that standing and experience -- you wouldn't deserve
> a seat at those tables.
>
>3. Implement, or if you can't implement then *describe* Something
> Really Cool. A meme that spreads through the community like
> SAX has done.
Very conventional ideas, none of which do anything to change the overall
state of the W3C. I've done plenty of #1, I question the value of #2, and
regularly attempt #3 when I can find time and money.
If you haven't noticed, I've put in plenty of time on XSchema/DDML, Common
XML, and XPDL. Not all blaring successes, but all of them contributions. I
can't say I ever expected to hit home runs my first few times out, or to
ever hit home runs all by myself.
>But don't tell me that I ought to be more "accountable" to you or
>anybody else for expressing my technical judgements in a voluntary
>forum.
I'm not saying that you personally should be accountable, but that an
organization creating de facto standards should be accountable in some
significant way that extends beyond its membership.
I'm much more concerned with the accountability of the organization than
its participants.
Simon St.Laurent
XML Elements of Style / XML: A Primer, 2nd Ed.
XHTML: Migrating Toward XML
http://www.simonstl.com - XML essays and books
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