Re: Usage of Fonts in XML

["Joel Rees (pop)" <rees@server.mediafusion.co.jp>]

That's what I get for dancing in the dark -- ambiguitiy.

No, I think Unicode encoding is not impossible on MSWindows ME. You just
have to get the concepts and the methods down to make sure it works, and to
understand how you can use it. But what was said that would lead you to ask
this question?

Brian T concluded:

> Joel:
> thus, an Unicode encoding is NOT possible on Windows ME?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joel Rees" <rees@server.mediafusion.co.jp>
> To: "S. Jyotinarayan" <ncjyoti@yahoo.com>
> Cc: "XML-DEV" <xml-dev@lists.xml.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:13 AM
> Subject: Re: Usage of Fonts in XML
>
>
> > S. Jyotinarayan said:
> >
> > [snipped]
> > >
> > > I have MS Office 2000 installed on Windows 2000 OS.
> > > I have  saved the MS Excel file to "Unicode Text".
> > > When I view the text in Notepad I see that it's delimited by tab.
> > > When I open it in MS Word or MS Excel it imports the text and displays
> it
> > in
> > > Courrier and Times New Roman fonts respectively and not the Arlsk font
> > > that's initially used. Is this normal?
> >
> > Yes, it's normal. Anytime you save a document as text, you lose
> essentially
> > all of your formatting.
> >
> > > What tool do I use to do the conversion from "Unicode Text" to XML?
> >
> > That's a little like asking what vehicle you should ride to work.
<wink/>
> >
> > > What encoding do you think would best suit my requirement, I am
> displaying
> > > text with diacritical marks?
> >
> > What are your requirements? I do not remember what you said in your
> previous
> > posts, and I've already deleted them from my computer. (Short on disk
> > space.)
> >
> > > How does this work? Once I get the converted XML file with the
> diacritical
> > > marks and view it on an internet browser of a system, will I need to
> have
> > > the particular font I used to write the text initially in MS Excel
> > installed
> > > on the system?
> >
> > Do you understand the difference between a font and an encoding?
> >
> > > > I personally don't open binary files from strangers that may contain
> > > > built-in macros, especially Excel and Word files, which are very
> popular
> > > for
> > > > spreading viruses. Not that you would be trying to spread a virus,
but
> > you
> > > > never know how good someone else's virus-checking infrastructure is.
> > >
> > > What do you suggest is the best way to send over formatted text?
> >
> > I've seen a lot of people using rich text (RTF) or Adobe Acrobat (PDF).
> But
> > that really doesn't answer your present question, I am sure.
> >
> > [snipped]
> >
> > I'll try a little dancing in the dark and give you a really simplified
> > explanation of text, encoding, diacriticals, and fonts. Pardon me if I
> > become a little pedantic.
> >
> > Character: a low-level graphic element commonly used to communicate
> > information in a specific language. Characters (preferably) exist at a
> level
> > below that commonly used to convey meaning.
> >
> > Diacritical marks: character-like marks attached to fundamental
characters
> > for various purposes.
> >
> > Encoding: an assignment of numbers (code points) to characters and
> > character-like "things", such as diacritical marks, combination
> characters,
> > methods of combining, delimiting whitespace, etc. (This is way too
simple
> an
> > explanation, but you have to start somewhere.)
> >
> > Font (see typeface): a term improperly borrowed in the computer industry
> to
> > describe the definition of a set of graphical representations of
> characters
> > and character-like "things".
> >
> > <important>A character encoding does not provide any means of specifying
a
> > font, at least not in our present technology.</important>
> >
> > Text: data represented as a sequence of characters and character-like
> > "things". (This is fairly easy to grasp when your native language is
> > American English. Other languages do not allow as clean a distinction
> > between text and formatting.)
> >
> > <important>Although you can not correctly view a text file without a
> correct
> > font, the text is (ideally) independent of the font.</important>
> >
> > Mark-up: a method or system of using unusual character strings or other
> > markings to indicate extra information, including (but not limited to)
> > formatting, keywords for searching, interpretations, annotations,
> > interpolations, other ancillary information of various sorts, etc., and
so
> > forth.
> >
> > XML: the newest and most well-accepted language for defining mark-up
> systems
> > using ordinary characters. Although we get lazy and talk about
converting
> a
> > file to XML, we should rather talk about converting the file to a
specific
> > application of XML. Otherwise, we don't have much idea what the output
is
> > supposed to look like, except that it probably has a lot of tags.
> >
> > HTH (And I've got to get back to work.)
> >
> > Joel Rees
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