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- To: 'xml-dev' <xml-dev@lists.xml.org>
- Subject: RE: [xml-dev] Announce: XML Schema, The W3C's Object-Oriented Des criptions for XML
- From: "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@ingr.com>
- Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 13:48:47 -0500
No, it's not. If we have to depend on putting on
costumes and dumping good tea to get the attention of the
king, then it really is time to dump the king too because
a mature spec organization knows when it has launched
a turkey. Whatever the merits of James' analysis,
it is about two years too late.
Berners-Lee approved it. How loud a blast do you need
to get the attention of a man whose home phone number is
on your digital rolodex? What is the lesson learned?
Let me ask: should we quit claiming to be creating
standards and admit the role of specifications? That
is, one implements a spec and assumes the risk that
it may have flaws. A standard, by contrast, should be
relatively risk free because the implemented technologies
and the communities that use them have uncovered them.
You can't have it both ways.
Maybe what we are really seeing here is not a tea
dumping revolution, but just the beginning of a
process to create a standard, meaning, DSDL is
in the right place at the right time with the
right people doing the right work.
len
From: Tim Bray [mailto:tbray@textuality.com]
Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
> As Clark's message is being passed along working
> groups like a grassfire, the assertions that XML Schema is
> hard, incomplete, inadequate, somehow not right, are being
> accepted uncritically in many venues based on the source.
>
> That is not a good thing.
On the contrary, it's an unalloyed good thing. We have moved from a
situation in which nobody in the world had ever heard of any schema
facility other than XSD to a situation in which we are having widespread
and quite enlightening discussions about pros and cons and trade-offs
and options. This is a major win.
And yes, it needed a fairly large-caliber cannon blast to alert the
world that there are some issues here. Sometimes you have to dump tea
in the harbor to launch a debate about taxation structure. -Tim
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