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   Re: [xml-dev] Web Services/SOA (was RE: [xml-dev] XML 2004 weblog items?

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  • Subject: Re: [xml-dev] Web Services/SOA (was RE: [xml-dev] XML 2004 weblog items?)
  • From: Michael Champion <michaelc.champion@gmail.com>
  • Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 16:42:21 -0500
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  • Reply-to: Michael Champion <michaelc.champion@gmail.com>

On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 15:58:38 -0500, Mark Baker <distobj@acm.org> wrote:
> > >Practically all the Web services I've seen deployed on the Internet
> > >(via xmethods.net) is RPC too.
> >
> > So what?
> Well, I think it means that many well-intentioned developers, who want
> to contribute to the Web services vision, aren't being given a
> consistent (or even coherent) message about how exactly they should go
> about doing that.  

IMHO the modern "web services vision" is that web services are
*technologies* that don't imply a consistent message about how they
should be used.  One can use SOAP/WSDL to support plain-ol' RPC,
distributed object architectures, or services oriented architectures. 
With WS-Transfer or a roll-your-own SOAP format, one can use them to
support an essentially RESTful architecture.

That's the main reason (at least in 20/20 hindsight) for the WS
Architecture working group not continuing on a Recommendation path: it
concluded that there is no "Web Services Architecture", although there
are clearly multiple architectural patterns that can be implemented
using web services.


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