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Oh please!!!
Will someone just call someone else a Nazi so we can invoke Goodwin's law and call this thread dead?!?!?
-----Original Message-----
From: M. David Peterson [mailto:m.david.x2x2x@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 12:56 PM
To: Bullard, Claude L (Len)
Cc: Bill Kearney; xml-dev@lists. xml. org
Subject: Re: [xml-dev] Rigged Aggregators?
>> If anything is needed here (and
>> it's not clear that there is anything needed) it is for the people
>> with the knowledge of the cited technologies and companies to stand up
>> and say "this is nonsense". Nothing more;
Amen!
With one or two trusted resources sounding off in an email they can
qualify or debunk all of this right away. But until they do consider
that there are so many little things in this piece that are completely
chopped and left fuzzy. Fuzziness generally suggests something to be
unclear. If something is unclear then all pieces following it are
based on assumption rather than fact. While the piece was quite clear
in the beginning the fuzz began to creep in right at the point where
states and documented problems with the elections were linked to for
qualification but then followed with fuzzy areas that seems to allow
the assumption to be the fact because of the verifiable link that
followed before or after it. Anything that claims fuzziness of a
system with fuzziness of its own must be seen as completely bogus
until such time as the fuzziness can be cleared up. Why be fuzzy when
your absolutely confident the evidence exists? There's no need to.
An example of some fuzz >> Washington state was named as a problem
state but Washington gave its electoral votes to Kerry. While the
entire piece was focused on the Federal elections suddenly
Washington's race for Governor became the topic of focus, not the
Federal election. Why? Is Nick Chalko also determined to select
Washington States Governor? If so then it seems he should have thrown
another hack or two in to help clear the way for his candidate of
choice as never has there been such a mess of a Governors race in any
state for as long as this lasted. Are Nicks hacks faulty then? Does
this then suggest that the entire system he built was faulty and as
such completely uncontrollable in any general direction. but why
again is the focus suddenly on the race for Governor when the piece is
focused on the Federal elections?
North and South Carolina were not even considered showdown states
(http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/) so why hack the results of a state
you are already near guaranteed to win? Using N/S Carolina as examples
is then completely useless.
It seems to me if you focus away from the "technical hack" side of
this piece and more along the areas such as the above examples this
piece is so full of holes it would probably take an admission of guilt
from the Republican party to bring back ANY sort of credibility. Is
it possible to cripple a system with bad XML? Yes! But hat doesnt
mean it did!
Bogus until someone in whom we can all accept as a pure authority
steps in and says otherwise...
Anybody with those credentials care to jump in and sound off?
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:57:58 -0600, Bullard, Claude L (Len)
<len.bullard@intergraph.com> wrote:
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> Hmmm... I have to disagree with you, Bill. I think we
> will see more blogs like that, and just as 'intelligent
> design' is making its way into school science classes,
> more superstition will be presented as credible theories
> because those capable of refuting them refuse to take
> the time.
>
> It's a short walk back to the trees and caves. No
> pushing or shoving required.
>
> len
>
> From: Bill Kearney [mailto:wkearney@syndic8.com]
>
> > That won't be good enough. Not nearly. The American
> > electorate is evenly split. The world electorate is
> > expressing a displeasure.
>
> Oh please, get a grip. That and spare us from yanking this whole stupid
> thread off into another entirely unrelated realm. And using $5 words
> doesn't make it seems any less stupid a thread.
>
> > Because it was and from someone who blogs prominently, I thought
> > it a good idea to get experts to look it over. As in open source,
> > the more smart eyes, the better.
>
> Err no, more like yet another example of blog narcissism, masquerading
> itself as visibility. Please, it's an entirely bogus set of arguments with
> seemingly little purpose other than to gain visibility for a crackpot.
> Shame on you for falling prey to the ploy, you should know better.
>
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:57:58 -0600, Bullard, Claude L (Len)
<len.bullard@intergraph.com> wrote:
> Hmmm... I have to disagree with you, Bill. I think we
> will see more blogs like that, and just as 'intelligent
> design' is making its way into school science classes,
> more superstition will be presented as credible theories
> because those capable of refuting them refuse to take
> the time.
>
> It's a short walk back to the trees and caves. No
> pushing or shoving required.
>
> len
>
> From: Bill Kearney [mailto:wkearney@syndic8.com]
>
> > That won't be good enough. Not nearly. The American
> > electorate is evenly split. The world electorate is
> > expressing a displeasure.
>
> Oh please, get a grip. That and spare us from yanking this whole stupid
> thread off into another entirely unrelated realm. And using $5 words
> doesn't make it seems any less stupid a thread.
>
> > Because it was and from someone who blogs prominently, I thought
> > it a good idea to get experts to look it over. As in open source,
> > the more smart eyes, the better.
>
> Err no, more like yet another example of blog narcissism, masquerading
> itself as visibility. Please, it's an entirely bogus set of arguments with
> seemingly little purpose other than to gain visibility for a crackpot.
> Shame on you for falling prey to the ploy, you should know better.
>
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