Re: [xml-dev] Microsoft buys the Swedish vote on OOXML?

[Dave Pawson <davep@dpawson.co.uk>]

Rick Jelliffe wrote:
> Dave Pawson said:
>> ESR makes a good point. Basically that mud sticks and ISO will be the
>> worse for this round of fun and games.
>> I quite agree.
>>
>>
>> http://opensource.org/node/192
> 
> Well, if his point is that ISO should treat Microsoft specially, then that
> is exactly where I came at the Korean meeting last year when I said that I
> didn't think they should be treated differently. A postman should deliver
> mail even to people he doesn't like.
Fair enough.

> 
> To my mind it is massive sour grapes. I think I told you before that this
> would happen: it is the latest phase of the campaign, even though I think
> it is a long time since they knew what they were fighting for.
> 
> They lost the battle to stop OOXML becoming a standard the moment that ODF
> was accepted.
Which 'they' Rick?


> 
> ESR accepts the worst claims uncritically: 
I.e. He's as cynical as Bryan and I.


> 
> I hope ISO and NB people don't let themselves get bullied over their
> reputation. If the process is fair
It isn't (IMHO)

  and people act in good faith
They don't (IMHO) They act according to those who pay the piper/speaker.

  and do the
> hard committee work, that is all that ISO can produce.

> 
> My prediction is that we will see an inflation of the importance and need
> for perfection of standards, to show how far ISO fails to meet the mark.

+1
They are important (to me)
They should show a good example... IMHO ISO comes near the top of the 
shit heap. It is important.

> 
> If the ISO and NB people are smart, they will use this as an opportunity
> to point out the positive things about international standards as well as
> explaining the limitations: it is good if people are prudently aware of
> the strengths and weaknesses of the processes.

Stds meets reality? Now that's hard Rick.





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