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Re: [xml-dev] XML Buzzwords. RFC



 
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> I'd like to see something more along the lines of the "XML
> Encyclopedia" containing short overviews and summaries of what is really

> known and agreed upon, and what is contentious in spite of being a

> Recommendation.
 
That's actully not what I want. I suggest to almost elminate 'editors'
( well, there are editors on CPAN, but their influence is
almost not-existant, I think ) The purpose is that there should be
no "agreements" so that and *anybody* can easily enter the
space at any point of time. I think that it should be a huge
linklist with exptremely short annotations, pointing to the
homepages of the products / specs. That should allow covering 
really *everything* around XML ( and that's the task ).
 
It took me plenty of time to find the brutal XML bindings, because
those bindings are 'not holy XML', so they have very poor
coverage and I still think I've missed some possibly interesting
XML subsets.
 
Of course, we already have a 'parts' of that XML encyclopedia
here and there, like http://www.rpbourret.com/xml/XMLDatabaseProds.htm
and of course one may occasionally find some interesting
things jumping from one link to another, but there is no
"big picture" and because only "blessed" efforts get coverage,
we have people re-inventing the wheel here and there.
 
I also think that technology is not really important ... well ...
I think it is ... In fact, what I propose is kind of 'the Web inside
the Web'. Some things have to be coded, because one should
be able to find all the 'relevant' things and 'relevance' should be
described in some handy way e t.c. There are some technical
challenges in this progect, but I agree that the biggest problem
is not technical.
 
Either we allow *XML users* to define "what is XML about",
or we keep wating for XML gods to tell us what is 'XML' about.
 
The situation with SQL and CDE clearly shows that when
gods thik that they 'always know better' it makes no good
on a long run.
 
CPAN keeps some crappy modules, but that is not a problem.
I know that I would find *everything* I need about perl on
www.perl.com - that's really convinient thing to allow unwashed
masses to build the common universe. That's how WWW has been
built.
 
Rgds.Paul.
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 7:58 AM
Subject: RE: [xml-dev] XML Buzzwords. RFC

I can't say I fully digested this ... but it sounds a bit like the "XML Wikipedia" thread a month or so ago.
Leigh Dodds has offered to host prototypes of this kind of thing on his http://weblogs.userland.com/eclectic/
site, as I recall.
 
The technology is probably not the issue, it's devising a process that motivates people to contribute yet keeps the hype and spin and flames to a minimum that's the challenge, IMHO. 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: PaulT [mailto:pault12@pacbell.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 10:43 AM
To: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
Subject: [xml-dev] XML Buzzwords. RFC
 
 
What I suggest is an attempt to stop constant, useless
and resource consuming holy wars. I suggest to
stop those wars with bulding some common space
that would be driven by plain technologizm ( there
is no political games on CPAN and CPAN is what've
made perl to become one of the most sucessfull software
projects).
 
 
However, I should stress out that building yet another
XMLSoftware or XSA framework is *not* what I'm
suggesting. I'm suggesting the common space that would
be freely open to *all of us* "no matter what your religion,
race, nationality or regardless of any negative political
history with us" and would also have W3C blessing.