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   Re: [xml-dev] SOAP, XSD, and HTTP

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On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 12:47:16PM -0400, Mike Champion wrote:
> It's time to move on ...  Or to put it more bluntly, "REST WON! 
> Learn to accept victory gracefully!"

FWIW, I think we're a long way from victory.  I'm *very* happy with the
changes we're making to SOAP 1.2 re GET, but they're only the tip of the
iceberg as far as getting Web services folks to understand how REST can
help them.

For example, see this requirement that I championed in the Web Services
Architecture WG (which I know you know about, Mike);


That it needed to be accepted as a requirement at all says a lot about
how far people still have to go to understand it.  I expect the GET
stuff in SOAP 1.2 to help, but speaking from experience here, it can
take years to make the leap from knowing what GET means to understanding
what it means to have "hypermedia as the engine of application state".

Mark Baker, CTO, Idokorro Mobile (formerly Planetfred)
Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA.               distobj@acm.org
http://www.markbaker.ca        http://www.idokorro.com


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