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- To: "Dare Obasanjo" <dareo@microsoft.com>
- Subject: RE: [xml-dev] Comparable considered necessary
- From: "Manos Batsis" <m.batsis@bsnet.gr>
- Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 12:05:02 +0300
- Cc: <xml-dev@lists.xml.org>
- Thread-index: AcJB3EGuZ+mpA3SXSMq9eqoWwtg2hwAADhCYAABmS4A=
- Thread-topic: [xml-dev] Comparable considered necessary
> From: Dare Obasanjo [mailto:dareo@microsoft.com]
> The example was purposely simplistic to illustrate a point.
> You and Manos have failed to see the point which indicates
> that it is probably more subtle than I thought. It isn't
> worth going into a lengthy exposition about though so I'll
> just leave it at "An identifier is not a location".
Dare, that quote means nothing to me. An identifier is just that and it's roles can be many, while I am interested in DNS based schemes. You have only used XML Names and XML Schemas for your arguments; their case is just a fragment of URI use and I'm only forced to use the first nowdays. I don't care about case sensitivity in XML Names; I do care about identifying resources, something that XML Names failed to do miserably (along with the mistake of using http URIs that are supposed to be addressable).
> Feel free to disagree.
Thanks!
Manos
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill de hÓra [mailto:bill.dehora@propylon.com]
> Sent: Mon 8/12/2002 1:41 AM
> To: Dare Obasanjo; 'Manos Batsis'
> Cc: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
> Subject: RE: [xml-dev] Comparable considered necessary
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dare Obasanjo [mailto:dareo@microsoft.com]
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> > You miss the point. An identifier is not a location.
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> This is not completely true in the http: scheme.
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> > I could quite easily come up with two schemas, one with a
> > target namespace of http://www.25hoursaday.com that describes
> > myself as a GA Tech alumni and http://WWW.25hoursaday.COM
> > which describes my CD collection. Now there is no question
> > that both of these URLs refer to the same location on the web
> > yet neither is there any question that they identify
> > different things.
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> Web dereferencing is lossy; big deal. Be more
> discerning in your choice
> of schema names.
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> > PS: Case insensitivity is a red herring. The example could
> > easily use URL escaping or raw IP vs. domain name.
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> Perhaps you shouldn't be throwing herrings about then.
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> regards,
> Bill de hÓra
> ..
> Propylon
> www.propylon.com
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