RE: [dita-fa-edboard] Tweaking the navigation

["Carol Geyer" <carol.geyer@oasis-open.org>]

DITA EdBoard,
We seem to have consensus that installing http://drupal.org/project/nodewords
would be good, but if we do, who would use it and how? 

Would the EdBoard assign nodewords just for our major pages? 

Would we expect authors to insert their own nodewords when they create a page? 

I just want to be sure we don't add to the complexity of creating a
page--especially after we have the categories module installed.

--c

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Doyle [mailto:bobdoyle@skybuilders.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:45 PM
To: Carol Geyer
Cc: DITA Editorial Board
Subject: Re: [dita-fa-edboard] Tweaking the navigation

Hi Carol,

You certainly should.  I use robots.txt for my clients.

It prevents the search engines from wasting time crawling extraneous content.

Together with an accurate sitemap.xml file, these two best practices instruct
the engines to find where the good stuff is. 

Take a peek at http://www.ditausers.org/sitemap.xml and http://www.robots.txt
as an example.

Using Google Webmaster Tools, you can see how your site pages really get
improved Quality Scores when you follow their advice. 
http://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/

Cheers.

Bob.





 


On 10/4/07, Carol Geyer <carol.geyer@oasis-open.org> wrote:

	Okay, I'll ask Neil again.
	
	He was looking at Drupal's nodewords module
	http://drupal.org/project/nodewords. It would allow us to set
descriptions for
	every page, plus give us a lot more control over things like robots.txt
files
	to specifically disallow friendly search engines from indexing certain
content.
	He wasn't sure we'd actually use it. Would we?
	
	--c
	
	-----Original Message-----
	From: Bruce Esrig [mailto:esrig-ia@esrig.com]
	Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:22 PM
	To: Carol Geyer; 'Bob Doyle'
	Cc: 'DITA Editorial Board' 
	Subject: RE: [dita-fa-edboard] Tweaking the navigation
	
	It's not just for SEO.
	
	The description in the meta tag shows up in abstracts in some search
results.
	
	Bruce
	
	At 06:01 PM 10/4/2007, Carol Geyer wrote: 
	>Bob,
	>Thanks for the feedback on the tweaks. The teasers on the homepage are
not
	>just
	>blogs, they're the most recent new posts of any kind. We can make them
just
	>blogs if we want--and/or publish more or less of them. It's pretty
easy to 
	>configure.
	>
	>As for the meta description, Neil feels that meta tags are largely
ignored by
	>search engines these days. They're most often used by sites trying to
	>artificially inflate their search engine rankings. He feels the best
way 
	>to get
	>good search engine rankings is to have good content, that other sites
link to
	>as good content, and to link to other good content.
	>
	>Thanks,
	>Carol
	>
	>
	>
	>
	>-----Original Message-----
	>From: Bob Doyle [mailto:bobdoyle@skybuilders.com]
	>Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 2:49 PM
	>To: Carol Geyer
	>Cc: DITA Editorial Board 
	>Subject: Re: [dita-fa-edboard] Tweaking the navigation
	>
	>Hi Carol,
	>
	>I like the action/task orientation of browse - conribute, etc.
	>
	>I also like the title bar, where you incorporate the full tagline of
the 
	>website.
	>
	>Now get Neil to add that tagline to the meta description.
	>
	>I like the full tease from five blog posts instead of the lonely
titles we
	>have
	>on DITA.XML.org <http://DITA.XML.org> .
	>
	>Search in upper right would be a distinct improvement.
	>
	>Cheers.
	>
	>Bob.
	>
	>
	>On 10/4/07, Carol Geyer < carol.geyer@oasis-open.org
<mailto:carol.geyer@oasis-open.org> > wrote:
	>
	>         When you have a minute, please take a look at
	> http://bpel.xml.org. This
	>focus
	>         area is still under construction, but I used the space to
play 
	> around a
	>bit
	>         with the FA navigation in an effort to encourage
contributions
	> and make
	>it
	>         easier for people to quickly understand what's on the site.
	> Instead of 
	>         organizing around "Knowledge base, Today, and Wiki", we give
people
	>ways of
	>         interaction--Browse, Contribute, Discuss, Syndicate.
	>
	>         The wiki pages are the only Drupal "book" on the site, so
users can 
	>easily add
	>         new pages into the outline. The outline will be displayed in
full at
	>         http://bpel.xml.org/wiki-pages .
	>
	>         The homepage body features teasers of the five most recent
pages. We 
	>can make
	>         our current <soapbox> article "sticky" so it's always the
first.
	>
	>         We could eliminate or reduce the horizontal orange rule and
move
	>everything up 
	>         a bit.
	>
	>         We could move the Search box to the upper right corner and
move
	> "About
	>this
	>         site" into the footer.
	>
	>         Please let me know what you think. 
	>
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Contributing Editor, EContent Magazine - 
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<http://www.skybuilders.com> 
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