Re: [dita-fa-edboard] Tweaking the navigation

[Scott Prentice <sp@leximation.com>]

It does seem like there would be a bit of overlap between the nodewords 
and categories modules. Do we need both or can the same functionality be 
achieved by just one of them?

...scott



Carol Geyer wrote:
> DITA EdBoard,
> We seem to have consensus that installing http://drupal.org/project/nodewords
> would be good, but if we do, who would use it and how? 
>
> Would the EdBoard assign nodewords just for our major pages? 
>
> Would we expect authors to insert their own nodewords when they create a page? 
>
> I just want to be sure we don't add to the complexity of creating a
> page--especially after we have the categories module installed.
>
> --c
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Doyle [mailto:bobdoyle@skybuilders.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:45 PM
> To: Carol Geyer
> Cc: DITA Editorial Board
> Subject: Re: [dita-fa-edboard] Tweaking the navigation
>
> Hi Carol,
>
> You certainly should.  I use robots.txt for my clients.
>
> It prevents the search engines from wasting time crawling extraneous content.
>
> Together with an accurate sitemap.xml file, these two best practices instruct
> the engines to find where the good stuff is. 
>
> Take a peek at http://www.ditausers.org/sitemap.xml and http://www.robots.txt
> as an example.
>
> Using Google Webmaster Tools, you can see how your site pages really get
> improved Quality Scores when you follow their advice. 
> http://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/
>
> Cheers.
>
> Bob.
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>
> On 10/4/07, Carol Geyer <carol.geyer@oasis-open.org> wrote:
>
> 	Okay, I'll ask Neil again.
> 	
> 	He was looking at Drupal's nodewords module
> 	http://drupal.org/project/nodewords. It would allow us to set
> descriptions for
> 	every page, plus give us a lot more control over things like robots.txt
> files
> 	to specifically disallow friendly search engines from indexing certain
> content.
> 	He wasn't sure we'd actually use it. Would we?
> 	
> 	--c
> 	
> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From: Bruce Esrig [mailto:esrig-ia@esrig.com]
> 	Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:22 PM
> 	To: Carol Geyer; 'Bob Doyle'
> 	Cc: 'DITA Editorial Board' 
> 	Subject: RE: [dita-fa-edboard] Tweaking the navigation
> 	
> 	It's not just for SEO.
> 	
> 	The description in the meta tag shows up in abstracts in some search
> results.
> 	
> 	Bruce
> 	
> 	At 06:01 PM 10/4/2007, Carol Geyer wrote: 
> 	>Bob,
> 	>Thanks for the feedback on the tweaks. The teasers on the homepage are
> not
> 	>just
> 	>blogs, they're the most recent new posts of any kind. We can make them
> just
> 	>blogs if we want--and/or publish more or less of them. It's pretty
> easy to 
> 	>configure.
> 	>
> 	>As for the meta description, Neil feels that meta tags are largely
> ignored by
> 	>search engines these days. They're most often used by sites trying to
> 	>artificially inflate their search engine rankings. He feels the best
> way 
> 	>to get
> 	>good search engine rankings is to have good content, that other sites
> link to
> 	>as good content, and to link to other good content.
> 	>
> 	>Thanks,
> 	>Carol
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>-----Original Message-----
> 	>From: Bob Doyle [mailto:bobdoyle@skybuilders.com]
> 	>Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 2:49 PM
> 	>To: Carol Geyer
> 	>Cc: DITA Editorial Board 
> 	>Subject: Re: [dita-fa-edboard] Tweaking the navigation
> 	>
> 	>Hi Carol,
> 	>
> 	>I like the action/task orientation of browse - conribute, etc.
> 	>
> 	>I also like the title bar, where you incorporate the full tagline of
> the 
> 	>website.
> 	>
> 	>Now get Neil to add that tagline to the meta description.
> 	>
> 	>I like the full tease from five blog posts instead of the lonely
> titles we
> 	>have
> 	>on DITA.XML.org <http://DITA.XML.org> .
> 	>
> 	>Search in upper right would be a distinct improvement.
> 	>
> 	>Cheers.
> 	>
> 	>Bob.
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>On 10/4/07, Carol Geyer < carol.geyer@oasis-open.org
> <mailto:carol.geyer@oasis-open.org> > wrote:
> 	>
> 	>         When you have a minute, please take a look at
> 	> http://bpel.xml.org. This
> 	>focus
> 	>         area is still under construction, but I used the space to
> play 
> 	> around a
> 	>bit
> 	>         with the FA navigation in an effort to encourage
> contributions
> 	> and make
> 	>it
> 	>         easier for people to quickly understand what's on the site.
> 	> Instead of 
> 	>         organizing around "Knowledge base, Today, and Wiki", we give
> people
> 	>ways of
> 	>         interaction--Browse, Contribute, Discuss, Syndicate.
> 	>
> 	>         The wiki pages are the only Drupal "book" on the site, so
> users can 
> 	>easily add
> 	>         new pages into the outline. The outline will be displayed in
> full at
> 	>         http://bpel.xml.org/wiki-pages .
> 	>
> 	>         The homepage body features teasers of the five most recent
> pages. We 
> 	>can make
> 	>         our current <soapbox> article "sticky" so it's always the
> first.
> 	>
> 	>         We could eliminate or reduce the horizontal orange rule and
> move
> 	>everything up 
> 	>         a bit.
> 	>
> 	>         We could move the Search box to the upper right corner and
> move
> 	> "About
> 	>this
> 	>         site" into the footer.
> 	>
> 	>         Please let me know what you think. 
> 	>
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