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   Re: [xml-dev] Elliotte Rusty Harold on Web Services

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> But many people would be happy with CSV with angle brackets as long as they got all the powerful off-the-shelf tools as well. <personal-opinion> If most of our users could get the following with CSV or S-expressions (I am such a broken record) I'm not sure they'd stick with XML besides the fact that it has been overhyped to death. I think this list of features would include 
>  * Model Based APIs for in memory representation - CHECK [DOM]
>  * Stream based APIs for fast processing - CHECK [Pull-based APIs, SAX]
>  * Grammer languages for specifying valid content - CHECK [DTD, W3C XML Schema]
>  * Query languages - CHECK [XQuery, XPath]
>  * Ability to perform regexes against the structure of the content - CHECK  [XPath, XSLT]
>  * Ability to create fairly human readable serialization - CHECK [XML 1.0 serialization, looks good in IE] </personal-opinion> 

Cool.  Sounds to me as if you've put some good thought into requirements for a 
new language: Web Services Content Language (WSCL).

I can't stress enough that I have no problem with this.  I think it would be 
very useful for someone to go on to develop WSCL.  I think it would be very 
laudable for this party to borrow the best ideas of XML.  There is even a 
decent chance that I would give it a try myself, and perhaps like it.

My main point in this thread is that I do not want XML transmogrified into 
WSCL.  I see the two as parallel developments.  And I don't mind at all if 
this parallel is traced back to a fork.

Personally, I think a fork is inevitable, at any rate.  If the 
WS/WXS/XQuery/SML or other folks don't force the issue, but keep flirting on 
the edges of a fork, the XML 1.0 folks might just force the issue themselves.

Uche Ogbuji                                    Fourthought, Inc.
http://uche.ogbuji.net    http://4Suite.org    http://fourthought.com
The open office file format  - http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/librar
Python Generators + DOM - http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/01/08/py-xml.html
4Suite Repository Features - https://www6.software.ibm.com/reg/devworks/dw-x4su
XML class warfare - http://www.adtmag.com/article.asp?id=6965


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