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00000 RE: [security-services] SAML 2.0 tech overview - initial diagrams John Hughes 2004-07-01 09:32
00001 RE: [security-services] SAML 2.0 tech overview - initial diagrams John Hughes 2004-07-01 13:03
00002 RE: [security-services] List of possible implementation features for SAML 2.0 John Hughes 2004-07-01 13:40
00003 RE: [security-services] List of possible implementation features for SAML 2.0 Mishra, Prateek 2004-07-01 13:51
00004 RE: [security-services] List of possible implementation features for SAML 2.0 Mishra, Prateek 2004-07-01 13:55
00005 RE: [security-services] List of possible implementation features for SAML 2.0 John Hughes 2004-07-01 14:00
00006 RE: [security-services] SAML 2.0 tech overview - initial diagrams Scott Cantor 2004-07-01 14:34
00007 RE: [security-services] SAML 2.0 tech overview - initial diagrams Scott Cantor 2004-07-01 14:56
00008 RE: [security-services] List of possible implementation features forSAML 2.0 Scott Cantor 2004-07-01 15:01
00009 Groups - sstc-saml-bindings-2.0-draft-14-diff.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-01 22:28
00010 Groups - sstc-saml-sec-consider-2.0-draft-04-diff.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-02 17:21
00011 Groups - sstc-saml-metadata-2 0-draft-07-diff.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-05 01:53
00012 Groups - sstc-saml-schema-metadata-2.0.xsd uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-05 01:54
00013 Groups - sstc-saml-metadata-2 0-draft-07-diff.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-06 03:01
00014 Groups - sstc-saml-schema-metadata-2.0.xsd uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-06 03:05
00015 Groups - sstc-saml-schema-ecp-2.0.xsd uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-06 06:03
00016 Groups - sstc-saml-profiles-2.0-draft-12-diff.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-06 06:04
00017 Status of major docs Scott Cantor 2004-07-06 06:15
00018 Action Item 0177: Clarify OneTimeUse description Hal Lockhart 2004-07-06 13:10
00019 Agenda for today's con-call Philpott, Robert 2004-07-06 14:54
00020 Re: [security-services] Agenda for today's con-call Eve L. Maler 2004-07-06 15:00
00021 Groups - sstc-saml-conformance-2.0-draft-01.sxw uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-06 15:24
00022 Groups - sstc-saml-conformance-2.0-draft-01.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-06 15:25
00023 Groups - sstc-saml-scope-2.0-draft-19-diff.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-06 17:06
00024 Action item status/questions (was Re: [security-services] Agenda fortoday's con-call) Eve L. Maler 2004-07-06 17:17
00025 Issue CORE-9: Wildcarding and Extensibility in the SAML Schemas Eve L. Maler 2004-07-06 17:25
00026 Issue CORE-21: Consent vs. Reason Eve L. Maler 2004-07-06 17:27
00027 Issue CORE-27: Consider Limiting Datatype of Attribute Name Eve L. Maler 2004-07-06 17:29
00028 RE: [security-services] Issue CORE-21: Consent vs. Reason Scott Cantor 2004-07-06 17:31
00029 Re: [security-services] Issue CORE-21: Consent vs. Reason Eve L. Maler 2004-07-06 17:35
00030 SSTC Conference Call Minutes, July 7 Mishra, Prateek 2004-07-06 17:35
00031 Issue BIND-3: Establish a Mandatory Profile Eve L. Maler 2004-07-06 17:40
00032 Issue BIND-4: Representing attribute profiles in core and metadata Eve L. Maler 2004-07-06 17:41
00033 Issue TECH-1: Identity/Service Provider Terminology and Domain Model Eve L. Maler 2004-07-06 17:43
00034 RE: [security-services] Issue CORE-21: Consent vs. Reason Scott Cantor 2004-07-06 17:45
00035 Action item summary Scott Cantor 2004-07-06 17:52
00036 RE: [security-services] SSTC Conference Call Minutes, July 7 Steve Anderson 2004-07-06 18:04
00037 Reminder to review the spec's in preparation for last call Philpott, Robert 2004-07-06 22:24
00038 [security-services] Action Item 0177: Clarify OneTimeUse description (Updated) Hal Lockhart 2004-07-07 01:57
00039 comments on sstc-saml-profiles-2.0-draft-12 John Hughes 2004-07-07 10:24
00040 RE: [security-services] comments on sstc-saml-profiles-2.0-draft-12 John Hughes 2004-07-07 10:42
00041 RE: [security-services] Groups - sstc-saml-schema-authn-context-kerberos-1.0.xsd uploaded Tim Alsop 2004-07-07 12:59
00042 RE: [security-services] Groups - sstc-saml-schema-authn-context-kerberos-1.0.xsd uploaded Tim Alsop 2004-07-07 13:01
00043 RE: [security-services] Minutes for Telecon, Tuesday 8 June 2004 Tim Alsop 2004-07-07 13:08
00044 Re: [security-services] Groups - sstc-saml-schema-authn-context-kerberos-1.0.xsduploaded John Kemp 2004-07-07 13:30
00045 Groups - docset-proposal-06.png uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-07 13:55
00046 EDITORIAL: Copyediting the specs Eve L. Maler 2004-07-07 14:05
00047 RE: [security-services] comments on sstc-saml-profiles-2.0-draft-12 Scott Cantor 2004-07-07 14:13
00048 RE: [security-services] comments on sstc-saml-profiles-2.0-draft-12 Scott Cantor 2004-07-07 14:16
00049 RE: [security-services] comments on sstc-saml-profiles-2.0-draft-12 John Hughes 2004-07-07 14:27
00050 RE: [security-services] Groups - sstc-saml-schema-authn-context-kerberos-1.0.xsd uploaded Tim Alsop 2004-07-07 14:42
00051 Re: [security-services] Groups - sstc-saml-schema-authn-context-kerberos-1.0.xsduploaded John Kemp 2004-07-07 14:51
00052 RE: [security-services] Groups - sstc-saml-schema-authn-context-kerberos-1.0.xsd uploaded Tim Alsop 2004-07-07 14:56
00053 RE: [security-services] EDITORIAL: Copyediting the specs Philpott, Robert 2004-07-07 21:40
00054 Groups - sstc-saml-profiles-2.0-draft-13-diff.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-08 14:49
00055 Groups - sstc-saml-schema-ecp-2.0.xsd uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-08 14:50
00056 Profiles status Scott Cantor 2004-07-08 14:56
00057 Groups - sstc-saml-schema-metadata-2.0.xsd uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-09 01:50
00058 Groups - sstc-saml-metadata-2 0-draft-08-diff.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-09 01:50
00059 Groups - sstc-saml-profiles-2.0-draft-14.sxw uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-09 02:39
00060 Groups - sstc-saml-profiles-2.0-draft-14-diff.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-09 02:40
00061 Groups - sstc-saml-schema-assertion-2.0.xsd uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-09 16:42
00062 Groups - sstc-gross-sec-analysis-response-00.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-12 18:05
00063 Per AI #0169 (Draft formal response to IBM research report on SAML) Linn, John 2004-07-12 18:06
00064 AI-#0165: Proposed Errata Process for SAML 2.0 Mishra, Prateek 2004-07-12 18:44
00065 RE: [security-services] AI-#0165: Proposed Errata Process for SAML 2.0 Jahan Moreh 2004-07-12 19:12
00066 AI-0114: Propose language to address attribute-based federation Mishra, Prateek 2004-07-12 19:57
00067 Groups - sstc-saml-core-2.0-draft-16-diff.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-12 22:10
00068 Copyediting status Eve L. Maler 2004-07-13 00:45
00069 Re: [security-services] AI-#0165: Proposed Errata Process for SAML 2.0 Eve L. Maler 2004-07-13 00:56
00070 RE: [security-services] AI-#0165: Proposed Errata Process for SAML 2.0 Scott Cantor 2004-07-13 02:32
00071 RE: [security-services] AI-#0165: Proposed Errata Process for SAML 2.0 Mishra, Prateek 2004-07-13 03:33
00072 Agenda for SSTC Conference Call, July 13 Mishra, Prateek 2004-07-13 04:23
00073 Groups - sstc-saml-bindings-2 0-draft-15-diff.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-13 14:23
00074 Updated item #4) Agenda item for SSTC July 13 conference call Mishra, Prateek 2004-07-13 15:09
00075 RE: [security-services] Updated item #4) Agenda item for SSTC July 13 conference call Scott Cantor 2004-07-13 15:32
00076 New Issue: AssertionID/ WSS Direct reference compatability Ron Monzillo 2004-07-13 19:34
00077 RE: [security-services] New Issue: AssertionID/ WSS Direct reference compatability Scott Cantor 2004-07-13 20:10
00078 Groups - sstc-saml-core-2.0-draft-17-diff.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-13 20:24
00079 RE: [security-services] New Issue: AssertionID/ WSS Direct referencecompatability Ari Kermaier 2004-07-13 20:30
00080 Re: [security-services] New Issue: AssertionID/ WSS Direct reference compatability Greg Whitehead 2004-07-13 20:51
00081 Groups - sstc-saml-bindings-2.0-draft-16-diff.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-13 20:53
00082 Groups - sstc-saml-profiles-2.0-draft-15-diff.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-13 20:55
00083 Groups - sstc-saml-authn-context-2.0-draft-07.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-13 20:57
00084 Re: [security-services] New Issue: AssertionID/ WSS Direct referencecompatability John Kemp 2004-07-13 20:58
00085 Groups - sstc-saml-metadata-2.0-draft-08-diff.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-13 20:59
00086 DRAFT minutes for OASIS SSTC conf call, 2004-07-13 RL 'Bob' Morgan 2004-07-13 21:20
00087 Groups - sstc-saml-2.0-last-call.zip uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-13 21:23
00088 Last-call drafts and call for review now available on website Eve L. Maler 2004-07-13 21:52
00089 Re: [security-services] New Issue: AssertionID/ WSS Direct referencecompatability Ron Monzillo 2004-07-13 22:00
00090 Re: [security-services] New Issue: AssertionID/ WSS Direct reference compatability Greg Whitehead 2004-07-13 22:58
00091 RE: [security-services] New Issue: AssertionID/ WSS Direct reference compatability Scott Cantor 2004-07-14 01:11
00097 (no subject) Snknown 2004-07-14 10:59
00092 RE: [security-services] New Issue: AssertionID/ WSS Direct reference compatability [email protected] 2004-07-14 12:55
00093 Re: Last-call drafts and call for review now available on website Karl F. Best 2004-07-14 13:00
00094 RE: [security-services] Re: Last-call drafts and call for review now available on website [email protected] 2004-07-14 13:33
00095 Re: [security-services] Re: Last-call drafts and call for review nowavailable on website Eve L. Maler 2004-07-14 13:47
00096 RE: [security-services] Re: Last-call drafts and call for review now available on website Philpott, Robert 2004-07-14 14:00
00098 Re: [security-services] Re: Last-call drafts and call for reviewnow available on website Karl F. Best 2004-07-14 14:16
00099 Re: [security-services] Re: Last-call drafts and call for review nowavailable on website Eve L. Maler 2004-07-14 14:31
00100 Re: [security-services] Re: Last-call drafts and call for reviewnow available on website Karl F. Best 2004-07-14 14:41
00101 RE: [security-services] Re: Last-call drafts and call for review now available on website Philpott, Robert 2004-07-14 15:20
00102 Potential new issue: WSDL for SAML services Eve L. Maler 2004-07-14 15:40
00103 RE: [security-services] Potential new issue: WSDL for SAML services Scott Cantor 2004-07-14 16:36
00104 Re: [security-services] Re: Last-call drafts and call for reviewnow available on website RL 'Bob' Morgan 2004-07-14 16:42
00105 FW: [security-services] Re: Last-call drafts and call for review now available on website Philpott, Robert 2004-07-14 16:45
00106 RE: [security-services] DRAFT minutes for OASIS SSTC conf call, 2004-07-13 (with Attendance) Mishra, Prateek 2004-07-14 20:33
00107 SAML+SIP profile ID @ IETF Peter C Davis 2004-07-14 20:39
00108 Re: [security-services] New Issue: AssertionID/ WSS Direct referencecompatability Ron Monzillo 2004-07-14 20:56
00109 Re: [security-services] New Issue: AssertionID/ WSS Direct referencecompatability Ron Monzillo 2004-07-14 21:27
00110 Re: [security-services] New Issue: AssertionID/ WSS Direct reference compatability Greg Whitehead 2004-07-14 21:27
00111 Re: [security-services] New Issue: AssertionID/ WSS Direct referencecompatability Ron Monzillo 2004-07-14 21:39
00112 RE: [security-services] New Issue: AssertionID/ WSS Direct referencecompatability Scott Cantor 2004-07-14 21:41
00113 Re: [security-services] New Issue: AssertionID/ WSS Direct referencecompatability Ron Monzillo 2004-07-14 22:01
00114 sstc-saml-profiles-2.0-figure-browser-sso-overall-02.sxd Jeff Hodges 2004-07-15 14:31
00115 [thread on X.500/LDAP attribute values in SAML 2.0 profile] RL 'Bob' Morgan 2004-07-15 17:03
00116 comments on Last Call profiles doc - draft 17 John Hughes 2004-07-15 20:26
00117 RE: [security-services] comments on Last Call core doc - draft 17 Scott Cantor 2004-07-16 03:58
00118 RE: [security-services] comments on Last Call core doc - draft 17 John Hughes 2004-07-16 05:51
00119 Groups - sstc-saml-profiles-2.0-draft-17.sxw uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-17 22:21
00120 Agenda for SSTC Conference Call, July 20, 2004 Philpott, Robert 2004-07-20 03:39
00121 Groups - sstc-saml-profiles-2.0-draft-17-diff.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-20 03:59
00122 RE: [security-services] Agenda for SSTC Conference Call, July 20, 2004 Scott Cantor 2004-07-20 04:02
00123 RE: [security-services] Agenda for SSTC Conference Call, July 20, 2004 Mishra, Prateek 2004-07-20 13:52
00124 Attribute profile support in metadata Scott Cantor 2004-07-20 13:57
00125 an example entry-point spec to a "specification set" Jeff Hodges 2004-07-20 16:41
00126 Groups - sstc-saml-2.0-issues-draft-13-diff.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-20 20:19
00127 Attribute values in metadata (redux) Scott Cantor 2004-07-20 23:58
00128 Comments on sstc-saml-core-2.0-draft-17.pdf ( long) John Kemp 2004-07-21 00:26
00129 RE: [security-services] Comments on sstc-saml-core-2.0-draft-17.pdf ( long) John Hughes 2004-07-21 06:46
00130 Re: [security-services] Attribute values in metadata (redux) Eve L. Maler 2004-07-21 14:55
00131 Groups - sstc-saml-tech-overview-2.0-draft-01.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-22 16:41
00132 Groups - sstc-saml-tech-overview-2.0-draft-01.sxw uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-22 16:42
00133 SAML 2.0 Technical Overview uploaded John Hughes 2004-07-22 16:47
00134 Minutes for 20-July 2004 SSTC con-call (official and focus call) Philpott, Robert 2004-07-23 16:29
00135 sstc-saml-profiles-2.0-figures-01.pdf Jeff Hodges 2004-07-26 21:24
00136 Corrections to Sstc-saml-bindings-2.0-draft-16.pdf Beach, Michael C 2004-07-26 22:23
00137 wrt Fig A in sstc-saml-bindings-2.0-draft-17 Jeff Hodges 2004-07-26 22:35
00138 RE: [security-services] sstc-saml-profiles-2.0-figures-01.pdf Beach, Michael C 2004-07-26 22:53
00139 Re: [security-services] sstc-saml-profiles-2.0-figures-01.pdf Jeff Hodges 2004-07-26 23:42
00140 Groups - sstc-saml-profiles-2.0-figures-02.sxd uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-27 01:28
00141 Groups - sstc-saml-profiles-2.0-figures-02.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-27 01:30
00142 RE: [security-services] sstc-saml-profiles-2.0-figures-01.pdf Scott Cantor 2004-07-27 01:39
00143 RE: [security-services] wrt Fig A in sstc-saml-bindings-2.0-draft-17 Scott Cantor 2004-07-27 01:39
00144 detailed comments on sec 4.2 Enhanced Client and Proxy (ECP) Profileofsstc-saml-profiles-2.0-draft-17 Jeff Hodges 2004-07-27 02:11
00145 RE: [security-services] detailed comments on sec 4.2 Enhanced Client and Proxy (ECP) Profile ofsstc-saml-profiles-2.0-draft-17 Scott Cantor 2004-07-27 02:18
00146 Agenda for SSTC Conference call, July 27 Mishra, Prateek 2004-07-27 03:33
00147 Re: [security-services] wrt Fig A in sstc-saml-bindings-2.0-draft-17 Jeff Hodges 2004-07-27 03:42
00148 Use case for AttributeQuery that includes AttributeValue Anne Anderson 2004-07-27 14:05
00149 Conformance draft-01 comments Scott Cantor 2004-07-27 15:46
00150 Re: [security-services] detailed comments on sec 4.2 Enhanced Clientand Proxy (ECP) Profile ofsstc-saml-profiles-2.0-draft-17 Jeff Hodges 2004-07-27 16:14
00151 RE: [security-services] sstc-saml-profiles-2.0-figures-01.pdf Beach, Michael C 2004-07-27 16:43
00152 RE: [security-services] wrt Fig A in sstc-saml-bindings-2.0-draft-17 [email protected] 2004-07-27 17:11
00153 Re: [security-services] wrt Fig A in sstc-saml-bindings-2.0-draft-17 Jeff Hodges 2004-07-27 17:19
00154 ID-FF 1.2 SCR Mishra, Prateek 2004-07-27 17:29
00155 RE: [security-services] Minutes for 20-July 2004 SSTC con-call (official and focus call) Nick Ragouzis 2004-07-27 17:38
00156 Groups - www.projectliberty.org/specs/liberty-idff-1.2-scr-v1.0.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-27 17:44
00157 minutes for 27-July SSTC con-call Philpott, Robert 2004-07-27 21:34
00158 Suggested core changes for Attribute by-value queries Scott Cantor 2004-07-28 16:51
00159 Analyzing cost of MTI features (WAS Minutes for 20-July 2004 SSTC con-call (official and focus call)) Mishra, Prateek 2004-07-28 21:33
00160 RE: [security-services] Analyzing cost of MTI features (WAS Minutes for 20-July 2004 SSTC con-call (official and focus call)) Philpott, Robert 2004-07-28 21:36
00161 proposed definition: "security context" Jeff Hodges 2004-07-28 23:40
00162 RE: [security-services] SAML 2.0 Technical Overview uploaded Paul Madsen 2004-07-29 14:05
00163 RE: [security-services] SAML 2.0 Technical Overview uploaded Scott Cantor 2004-07-29 18:39
00164 Conformance & metadata implications Scott Cantor 2004-07-29 19:07
00165 RE: [security-services] Analyzing cost of MTI features Scott Cantor 2004-07-29 19:20
00166 Groups - sstc-saml-glossary-2.0-draft-02.sxw uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-29 20:26
00167 Groups - sstc-saml-glossary-2.0-draft-02-diff.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-29 20:28
00168 Groups - sstc-saml-glossary-2.0-draft-02.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-29 20:29
00169 wrt my action items Jeff Hodges 2004-07-29 20:31
00170 Groups - sstc-saml-profiles-2.0-figures-03.sxd uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-29 21:08
00171 Groups - sstc-saml-profiles-2.0-figures-03.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-29 21:09
00172 Stateless Conformity To SAML Dana Kaufman 2004-07-29 21:24
00173 RE: [security-services] Stateless Conformity To SAML Scott Cantor 2004-07-29 21:59
00174 RE: [security-services] Stateless Conformity To SAML Beach, Michael C 2004-07-29 22:39
00175 RE: [security-services] Stateless Conformity To SAML Scott Cantor 2004-07-29 23:10
00176 Extension of deadline for call for papers for 2004 ACM Workshop on SecureWeb Services (SWS) Paula K Austel 2004-07-30 12:01
00177 InfoWorld Federating identity July 23, 2004 Mishra, Prateek 2004-07-30 14:50
00178 Network security vendor generates SAML from VPN device Mishra, Prateek 2004-07-30 16:38
00179 RE: [security-services] Stateless Conformity To SAML Steve Anderson 2004-07-30 18:11
00180 Groups - sstc-saml-conformance-2.0-draft-03.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-30 18:19
00181 Groups - sstc-saml-conformance-2.0-draft-03.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-30 18:20
00182 Groups - sstc-saml-conformance-2.0-draft-03.sxw uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-30 18:20
00183 AI-0188 Update conformance document Mishra, Prateek 2004-07-30 18:28
00184 RE: [security-services] Stateless Conformity To SAML Scott Cantor 2004-07-30 18:36
00185 RE: [security-services] Stateless Conformity To SAML Steve Anderson 2004-07-30 18:50
00186 RE: [security-services] Stateless Conformity To SAML Scott Cantor 2004-07-30 18:56
00187 RE: [security-services] Stateless Conformity To SAML Steve Anderson 2004-07-30 19:25
00188 RE: [security-services] Stateless Conformity To SAML Scott Cantor 2004-07-30 19:33
00189 Re: [security-services] Stateless Conformity To SAML Greg Whitehead 2004-07-30 19:41
00190 RE: [security-services] Stateless Conformity To SAML Nick Ragouzis 2004-07-30 19:49
00191 RE: [security-services] Stateless Conformity To SAML Nick Ragouzis 2004-07-30 20:13
00192 RE: [security-services] Stateless Conformity To SAML Scott Cantor 2004-07-30 20:28
00193 Additional glossary terms Scott Cantor 2004-07-30 20:58
00194 RE: [security-services] Stateless Conformity To SAML Nick Ragouzis 2004-07-30 21:09
00195 RE: [security-services] Stateless Conformity To SAML Beach, Michael C 2004-07-30 21:10
00196 RE: [security-services] Stateless Conformity To SAML Scott Cantor 2004-07-30 21:23
00197 RE: [security-services] Stateless Conformity To SAML Scott Cantor 2004-07-30 21:32
00198 RE: [security-services] Stateless Conformity To SAML Mishra, Prateek 2004-07-30 21:49
00199 RE: Comments on sstc-saml-core-2.0-draft-17.pdf (part 1, long) Scott Cantor 2004-07-30 22:00
00200 RE: [security-services] Stateless Conformity To SAML Nick Ragouzis 2004-07-30 22:05
00201 RE: [security-services] Stateless Conformity To SAML Scott Cantor 2004-07-30 22:16
00202 Signatures in protocols (section 3 of core) Scott Cantor 2004-07-30 22:40
00203 RE: [security-services] Stateless Conformity To SAML Beach, Michael C 2004-07-30 22:51
00204 RE: [security-services] Stateless Conformity To SAML Scott Cantor 2004-07-30 23:00
00205 RE: [security-services] Stateless Conformity To SAML Scott Cantor 2004-07-30 23:29
00206 Re: [security-services] Stateless Conformity To SAML Greg Whitehead 2004-07-31 00:09
00207 RE: [security-services] Stateless Conformity To SAML Scott Cantor 2004-07-31 04:32
00208 Groups - sstc-saml-core-2.0-draft-18-diff.pdf uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-31 05:27
00209 Groups - sstc-saml-schema-assertion-2.0.xsd uploaded [email protected] 2004-07-31 05:30